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Eugene

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Greetings. I will be in Houston for a conference in May. I notice that HPD has a "Downtown" division which is not listed in the RRDB. Is it possibly divided between or part of the "central" or "South Central" divisions. thanks in advance.

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I'm thinking it's central division , there is a Houston police patrol map in the wiki section of the Harris county Page
 

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Thanks. The wiki map is the same as one I got from a google search of HPD. Both show a separate "Downtown" division. Special Operations is listed under "Homeland Security" but will definitely add it in.

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Downtown division is Central dispatch. Any 1AXX unit (I don't know the exact beat) would be near or in downtown. They dispatch 2 district on the same channel which is north of downtown out to the loop (2AXX Units). Each division has it's own set of districts (NW division is districts 4 and 5 which is dispatched on Northwest channel, but also 18 district, Midwest Division, is dispatched on NW too, North division is 3 and 6, North Belt is 22 all dispatched on the North channel, etc..). Special Ops units work all over the city (any special division is on this channel from DWI, Accident investigators, etc...). It's kind of confusing for anyone who hasn't monitored HPD before.

So with that being said a single dispatch channel can dispatch multiple divisions. The only common denominator between the units and each dispatch channel is the Letter in the middle of the unit number so for instance even though they could be different divisions 1A10 and 2A10 both have the A in the middle (which would be the central dispatch channel). 5F30 and 18F30 are nowhere near each other geographically, nor the same division, but since they are dispatched on the same channel (Northwest) the F is common.

I hope that's about as clear as mud...
 

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Actually it does kinda make sense. Probably cuts down on the number of dispatch channels they have to pay someone to use. Thanks for all the info. Now just have to enter it all.

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Downtown "proper" (1A10 beat only) is patrolled by Special Operations ("x-Y-xx" units). Monitor the the Special Operations Dispatch talkgroup.
 

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Downtown division is Central dispatch. Any 1AXX unit (I don't know the exact beat) would be near or in downtown. They dispatch 2 district on the same channel which is north of downtown out to the loop (2AXX Units). Each division has it's own set of districts (NW division is districts 4 and 5 which is dispatched on Northwest channel, but also 18 district, Midwest Division, is dispatched on NW too, North division is 3 and 6, North Belt is 22 all dispatched on the North channel, etc..). Special Ops units work all over the city (any special division is on this channel from DWI, Accident investigators, etc...). It's kind of confusing for anyone who hasn't monitored HPD before.

So with that being said a single dispatch channel can dispatch multiple divisions. The only common denominator between the units and each dispatch channel is the Letter in the middle of the unit number so for instance even though they could be different divisions 1A10 and 2A10 both have the A in the middle (which would be the central dispatch channel). 5F30 and 18F30 are nowhere near each other geographically, nor the same division, but since they are dispatched on the same channel (Northwest) the F is common.

I hope that's about as clear as mud...
The Special Operations channel is a city wide channel because xxZxx units (Traffic Bureau) work on it all over the city. However, the immediate downtown area and some surrounding areas are patrolled by the Special Operations Unit which works on the Special Ops channel. The Special OPs Unit absorbed 1A10's beat (the immediate downtown area, which technically no longer exists and which you will not hear on Central Patrol). Special OPs units are 1Yxx, 2Yxx, 3Yxx. The first number denotes the shift. Listen for 2Y22B-he's always super polite and calm when talking to the dispatcher even when he's got somebody at gunpoint ;) Here is a link to HPD's official district map: https://www.houstontx.gov/police/pdfs/hpd_beat_map.pdf You will notice that 1A10's beat is a different color because it is now patrolled by Special Ops units and you will never hear a unit such as 1Adam10, 1 Adam12 on the air
 
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There you go. I don't listen to central, so never really noticed that the Downtown division was dispatched on Special Ops. It's pretty much common practice to scan Spec Ops and whatever patrol district you're in together so you don't miss any of the (city) stuff.

But that just goes to show that HPD's dispatching "scheme" is very quirky.... Hey let's take a Westside Division and make them a part of NW since NW is the quietest mic in the city. Oh hey, let's take Willowbrook (take them away from NW division), Greenspoint and part of freaking Humble and make them their own division and put them on with Shepard...

You get my drift, we're like the lost children out here in the NW side of town.

Also, don't forget HC C1 in and around downtown and HCSO Central patrols outside of the jails (even though it's usually only one unit on a shift)....
 

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Yea, I think SW Patrol was too busy and NW wasn't busy enough so they put 18 district on NW, even though it probably should really be on SW or Westside due to its geography.

I forgot to mention Pct 1 Constables patrolling downtown-they're Lxx units. I think they actually have 2 or 3 units patrolling that area, although I don't really hear them that often
 

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Thanks all for the replies. Lots of interesting stuff. They did that in my area too. Rearranged the precincts so that the new mall looked like it had lower crime. Eliminated a Precinct and incorporated it into the 2 remaining precincts. Round and round and round she goes........

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