ic r7000 troubleshooting

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zed_zed

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73's !
Do you guys know, what's going wrong when this receiver doesn't make a sound exept a quiet schhhhhhh from the speaker ? I just got it for a good price, and now...i'm searching who's the component in the main unit (maybe somewhere else ?) making this icom so quiet...!
The antenna and it's connection are fine, that's all i can say for the moment

:0(

Thanks.
 

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zed_zed said:
73's !
Do you guys know, what's going wrong when this receiver doesn't make a sound exept a quiet schhhhhhh from the speaker ? I just got it for a good price, and now...i'm searching who's the component in the main unit (maybe somewhere else ?) making this icom so quiet...!
The antenna and it's connection are fine, that's all i can say for the moment

:0(

Thanks.

Do you have a signal generator and an oscilloscope?
If not, I would suggest the following:
1. Tune the receiver to a strong FM broadcast station.
2. As you tune through the FM band, watch the S-meter. Does it move? If it moves, try different demodulator settings (AM, FM, FM Narrow, SSB, etc). Does the meter move on all of them? Do you get any audio (it might be distorted; that is OK for the moment) on any other demod settings? Does the noise in the speaker increase when you go to CW?
3. If you have another receiver which tunes to 10.7 MHz, connect it to the IF (SDU) output of the R-7000. Can you hear the FM stations when tuning the R-7000?
If the S-Meter does not move, and you don't get any output on any demodulator settings, the problem is probably in the RF or Synthesizer area. This makes troubleshooting without test equipment a little tougher. One crude way to determine if there is a RF problem is to scratch the antenna connector on the antenna input connector of the R-7000. If you hear crackle in the speaker, the problem is most likely in the synthesizer.
If there is no crackle, tune the R-7000 trough its range and scratch the antenna every 100 MHz or so (I don't remember the exact band limits on the RF filtering on the receiver). If you can hear a crackle on some frequencies but not on others, the problem is most likely in one of the RF filter / amplifier stages. If there is no crackle on any frequencies, the problem is probably caused by a faulty synthesizer. I don't have the R-7000 service manual, so I am walking on thin ice here. However, I think the first point to check in the synthesizer would be the combined Lock signal. This is the "ANDed" Lock from all phase locked loops in the receiver (this signal is sent to the processor as a Status signal). If it is off, the next step would be to check which of the Lock inputs is off. That would point to the faulty phase locked loop. The bad thing is that troubleshooting a phase locked loop without test equipment is very tough. The first step would be to get a service manual for the receiver, and familiarize yourself with the frequency plan, and the location of all the building blocks. The next step is to get some test equipment (it doesn't matter if it is old or crude - anything is better than nothing), or at least another receiver which tunes from about 10 MHz to a few hundred MHz..
Let me know if I can help you in any way. If so, I will give you my email address, and we will see what can be done.
Good Luck,
steve_s
 

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Hey guys thanks for helping ! I'm using a basic whip antenna, i also have an old oscilloscope, the service manual, and an aor8200mk3... First thing i did was to tune to a strong signal and i've checked all settings, changing antennas, but in each settings the s-meter is always moving around 8-9 ! On ssb : s-meter is going down on each strong signal i've checked with the AOR... i don't get it !!! And still no sound, no crackle : only this f...... weak audio (hhhhhhhhh) on all modes !!!! And the s-meter is stuck to 8-9. By the way i'm living in Europe...
Well steve ! You can send me your e-m@il adress , i'm connected twice a day.
Thanks again !!!!!!!!!
 
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If all fails, you can send it into Icom in Washington state for repair. My R-7100 was pretty deaf when I got it off eBay, it cost about $120 to have some capacitors replaced in the front end and have it re-aligned. Turn around time was pretty quick.

When I got it back, I placed it side by side with a friend's 7100 and made some comparisons. Interestingly, the second rig beat mine on the FM BC band and one other place in the spectrum even though mine was just 'fixed'. Oh well, I was happy with Icom's work.

Good Luck!

John K9RZZ
 

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zed_zed said:
Hey guys thanks for helping ! I'm using a basic whip antenna, i also have an old oscilloscope, the service manual, and an aor8200mk3... First thing i did was to tune to a strong signal and i've checked all settings, changing antennas, but in each settings the s-meter is always moving around 8-9 ! On ssb : s-meter is going down on each strong signal i've checked with the AOR... i don't get it !!! And still no sound, no crackle : only this f...... weak audio (hhhhhhhhh) on all modes !!!! And the s-meter is stuck to 8-9. By the way i'm living in Europe...
Well steve ! You can send me your e-m@il adress , i'm connected twice a day.
Thanks again !!!!!!!!!


So, just to make sure: you did all the tests above, and there was no change in anything - the S_Meter sits around S8 or 9 (regardless if a station is tuned in or not), in SSB the S-Meter goes down when you tune in a strong FM station, scratching the antenna cable connector on the R-7000 Antenna input does not produce a "cracle" in the speaker (at different frequencies across 20 to 1000 MHz), and the RF Gain control is turned fully clockwise?
Can you connect your oscilloscope to the 10.7 MHz SDU output and see if you get a varying amplitude signal (you don't have to sync to the signal but the envelope should change in amplitude when you tune to a strong FM station).
Could you describe exactly what the results of the tests are? It would probably be best to not take up Forum space with this. My email address is kd7kkDeletE@earthlink.net (just remove the DeletE). Otherwise, k9rzz's suggestion might be the best choice. Icom could go through the whole receiver and fix everything that has gone marginal over the past 20 years. Then you would have a known good receiver. The R-7000 is well worth the $100+ it costs to have it professionally repaired.
 

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ok thanks m8 i'll have a deep look at the block diagram of the rcvr and i'll try to make some tests, i'll get back to you steve_s.
By the way : icom's check up is around 600€ in europe!!!
Have a nice 2007 guys...
I'm off.
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