Icom: Icom IC-7300 at Field Day

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I'll only say this about the 7300, don't ever try and use one where other RF stuff is going on. (Field day for instance).
This is especially when HF bandpass filters should be used. Dedicate one radio to 20m, another to 40m, etc. while using the respective filter. I have had no problem using a 7300 with other radios when filters are used with close proximity of the antennas. One could even make stub filters on the cheap, but it was worth the money to me to buy filters. During Field Day, or just out operating with friends, the filters keeps things amicable.
 

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This is especially when HF bandpass filters should be used. Dedicate one radio to 20m, another to 40m, etc. while using the respective filter. I have had no problem using a 7300 with other radios when filters are used with close proximity of the antennas. One could even make stub filters on the cheap, but it was worth the money to me to buy filters. During Field Day, or just out operating with friends, the filters keeps things amicable.
We had filters. The same filters we've used on every other radio there for several years now. We've tried multiple different radios there and the 7300 was the only one that was rendered useless. Substituted a Yaesu 991a and carried on just fine.
 

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Interesting. What filters where you using? If purchased, what brand? I use the individual Dunestar 300 filters. I had my local club purchase two 600 models with the switches. Unfortunately, Dunestar is gone. I need several more of their 300 filters like WARC, 160, 80 and a 6m if they made it.

One could really clobber the issue by using stubs and filters.
 

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Interesting. What filters where you using? If purchased, what brand? I use the individual Dunestar 300 filters. I had my local club purchase two 600 models with the switches. Unfortunately, Dunestar is gone. I need several more of their 300 filters like WARC, 160, 80 and a 6m if they made it.

One could really clobber the issue by using stubs and filters.
I'll have to check with the field day coordinator, I don't recall off hand. We had them for 10,15,20,40 and 80 if I remember the sheet board correctly. Has to mark what band we were on and take the correct filter. I was on voice and the CW station kept killing my receive so we switched radios and I was back in action. I'll check in the morning and get back to you
 

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I have been using a 7300 at Field Day (and at home for other contests, next to radios with 1500w amps) for years without any issues. Everything is on Low Band Systems filters (and in some instances, multi-plexers) and I have no issues whatsoever. You can't use it by itself without filters, but then again, Field Day wipes out the front of end of Yaesu and Kenwood radios too, without filters. It is less noticeable with the non-SDR radios, but it's still there.
 

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I have been using a 7300 at Field Day (and at home for other contests, next to radios with 1500w amps) for years without any issues. Everything is on Low Band Systems filters (and in some instances, multi-plexers) and I have no issues whatsoever. You can't use it by itself without filters, but then again, Field Day wipes out the front of end of Yaesu and Kenwood radios too, without filters. It is less noticeable with the non-SDR radios, but it's still there.
I can only tell you what our club has experienced, we know what we saw and what happened. Last two years ago we tried one and substituted it with a 991A and that worked much better, this past year we tried again, and decided within an hour to just go ahead and use a FT-710 which honestly was one of the better ones we had tried in multiple years.
We've not tried it without filters nor, would even want to. The club has been setting up for years, a the same place and we've pretty much got down what we can and cannot use, or do.
At any given time we have 4 HF transceivers going all at the same time on different bands. Voice, CW, FT-8, and a get on the air station.
Again I'm only reporting what our club has experienced. Just like any device YMMV.
 

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I reworked the receive input of my 7300 and brought the coax from the T/R relay to the rear panel to an SMA IN and OUT where I can install filters and things in the receive path. I have a tiny 160-6m band pass filter that I sometimes put in line that really reduces high level out of band signals and makes my 7300 play at least as nice or better than my 7610 for out of band signals.

I think this is the filter I use but maybe an updated version.

 

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I reworked the receive input of my 7300 and brought the coax from the T/R relay to the rear panel to an SMA IN and OUT where I can install filters and things in the receive path. I have a tiny 160-6m band pass filter that I sometimes put in line that really reduces high level out of band signals and makes my 7300 play at least as nice or better than my 7610 for out of band signals.

I think this is the filter I use but maybe an updated version.

Thanks! This is the kind of info needed! I'll get with the owner of the 7300 we were using (we use members radios on FD) and get this to him! Again, thanks!! 73
edit: I'll get this to a couple other guys I know that have set their 7300's aside for now that live in a bigger city than I do, perhaps it will help those guys over there too!
 

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Thanks! This is the kind of info needed! I'll get with the owner of the 7300 we were using (we use members radios on FD) and get this to him! Again, thanks!! 73
edit: I'll get this to a couple other guys I know that have set their 7300's aside for now that live in a bigger city than I do, perhaps it will help those guys over there too!
You will need a couple of surplus internal RF cables, I forget what the connectors are called but they are used in many different amateur radios. I bought two cables like this then cut off one end and installed chassis mount SMA connectors with small hex nuts instead of a square flange. I mounted the connectors on upper rear right side when looking at the rear of the radio. You basically unplug the cable from the T/R relay to the receiver and install the two cables with SMA and drill two holes in the back of the radio. You will need a short SMA male to SMA male to jumper the connectors when not using an external filter. I would take a picture of the setup but the radio lives at another place at the moment.

Here is the type of cable I cut and installed SMA connectors on.

 

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The USS Iowa amateur radio station has several Icom 7300s and I believe they use this or a version of this filter to keep out of band interference under control. I think they are using band decoder info to automatically switch the external filters.


 

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@prcguy Thank you very much for this information. It's rare to actually talk to someone personally (ok via the internet) that has actually done such a mod.

I have two friends in RF rich environments in down town STL who have virtually stopped using HF on the 7300s. When I ran one at my house, i thought it did fine but I don't have the environment that they do. Also field day is an animal all its own with antennas hanging from crane booms etc etc.

Again thanks.
 

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I have two friends in RF rich environments in down town STL who have virtually stopped using HF on the 7300s.
Unfortunately, it's not generally the RF rich environment on HF, rather the solar, Cheap Chinese LEDs, and other consumer devices, which just spew crap everywhere these days. I have a friend who lives in a similar environment, and all the filters in the world wouldn't help. And he's not using a 7300...he's using a Kenwood 590. We tried everything we possibly could. Go to a park a few blocks away (but away from the houses) and everything is fine.
 

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Yep, have a friend who is having problems on 6 meters. Narrowed his main problem to a Baofeng charger, went from S9 down to about S4-5 but I can't seen to find the rest of it. I live 2 blocks away and hear people on 6 all the time he doesn't. I get it.
 

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We use Morgan System bandpass filters with the two IC-7300 radios we have in our ecomm trailer and they work well without interfering with each other. The radios sits right next to each other.
 

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I will probably supplement my remaining filter needs with Morgan Systems. I have one or two already and no need to wait for a unicorn Dunestar out in the wild.
 
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