Interoperability? Whats that?

[216DawgPound]

Greater Cleveland area doesn't seem to have any clue what interoperability is. Either law enforcement or fire/ems side.

Had several incidents that I monitored lately where the units involved relied on their dispatchers instead of switching to a channel to either talk direct with other agencies or at least an interop channel. With 3 P25 systems up here, it seems like people are scared to use their radios.

We had a bunch of storms that just rolled through here this afternoon. One dispatch center tried to contact another for mutual aid. One agencies phones were out of service. I wonder why they didn't try to contact on a radio?

Curiouser and curiouser.

Maybe they need lessons from Columbus and surrounding area on true inter agency mutual aid ops.

We had a pursuit that started in one area last night, went through 2 counties and finally got terminated. By the ti.e the dispatcher got ahold of one agency, the pursuit was already past there. What ever happened to Ohio LEERN for that kind of stuff?

 

[rcid1971]

You nailed it, historically departments in Northern Ohio, specifically the Cleveland area and Cuyahoga County, are separate fiefdoms. More money, more power, more control, less cooperation. Summit county is slightly better with a history of using MAC channels for Fire/EMS, but most police dispatchers still pick up a phone. They don’t even use intercoms in large dispatch centers, or just accessing the other department’s talk groups. It’s so rare here. You occasionally see pockets of cooperation, like the Portage County sheriff was former OSHP, so they work a lot together. But then you see the Summit County sheriff that has gone encrypted and walled off her little department like it’s rogue North Korea.

 

[N8WCP]

"But then you see the Summit County sheriff that has gone encrypted and walled off her little department like it’s rogue North Korea." The were encrypted prior to the current sheriff. Expect more to go encrypted due to Crime Radar.

"Summit county is slightly better with a history of using MAC channels for Fire/EMS, but most police dispatchers still pick up a phone." Dispatch centers have a dedicated talkgroup to contact one another.

 

[rcid1971]

"But then you see the Summit County sheriff that has gone encrypted and walled off her little department like it’s rogue North Korea." The were encrypted prior to the current sheriff. Expect more to go encrypted due to Crime Radar.

"Summit county is slightly better with a history of using MAC channels for Fire/EMS, but most police dispatchers still pick up a phone." Dispatch centers have a dedicated talkgroup to contact one another.

She didn’t remove encryption, and now we have “Kandy’s Law” to legally require notification of escapes her office was hiding.

 

[N8WCP]

"She didn’t remove encryption, and now we have “Kandy’s Law” to legally require notification of escapes her office was hiding." More of policy then encryption. Can't assume anyone would have heard the traffic and reported on it.

 

[wa8pyr]

Greater Cleveland area doesn't seem to have any clue what interoperability is. Either law enforcement or fire/ems side.

They never have had.

What ever happened to Ohio LEERN for that kind of stuff?

A newfangled thing called MARCS came along. Who needs a simple VHF radio channel when you’ve got a thousand channels in your radio and a multi-million dollar infrastructure to support it?

 

[rcid1971]

They never have had.


A newfangled thing called MARCS came along. Who needs a simple VHF radio channel when you’ve got a thousand channels in your radio and a multi-million dollar infrastructure to support it?

Even in the LEERN analog era, it was a goof-off channel, often you'd hear music, or casual chatter. Where in Central and Southern Ohio, it was used for real interoperability.

 

[W8UU]

Where in Central and Southern Ohio, it was used for real interoperability.

In Southeast Ohio, OSP enforced the purpose and mission of LEERN with an iron fist. Improper or casual use of LEERN triggered a call from the Post Commander to a Police Chief or Sheriff if the offending party could be identified. Lawrence County Sheriff Jim Howell actually removed and returned LEERN radios because of this. He said the Patrol wasn't telling his deputies what to do.