Jackson

[Tech792]

Not sure where ErikAtTheW is located but Jackson Twp fire doesn't seem to have a real strong signal. I sometimes don't receive them at all. In Middletown, I don't receive them at all. When I'm in Mercer county, Robbinsville, which isn't far from Jackson, some days I get them and some days I don't.

 

[DJ88]

The FCC Database shows a power output of 100 watts for the Jackson Twp. fire system. I get it loud and clear here in the northeastern part of Brick Twp., about 2 minutes from the Brielle border. Maybe the poor reception in other areas has to do with it being a 500 MHz system. Don't know if they're as easy to receive as others.

As for elias1988's statement about them using the Fireground A,B, & C for a real fire, I don't find that to be true ALL the time. The last two bad accidents they were called to, I heard EVERYTHING on Fire Ops 1, the units signing on, the chief directing them to the scene, the extrication operations, and setting up an LZ in one case, which was subsequently cancelled, and heard the chief tell county to cancel per the medics and that they would transport by ground. Also the same holds true for the last big house fire they had, heard efverything on Fire Ops 1. I'm not saying they don't use the Fireground frequencies, but from my experiences, I've always heard everything on the Fire Ops 1 frequency.

 

[elias1988]

As for elias1988's statement about them using the Fireground A,B, & C for a real fire, I don't find that to be true ALL the time. The last two bad accidents they were called to, I heard EVERYTHING on Fire Ops 1, the units signing on, the chief directing them to the scene, the extrication operations, and setting up an LZ in one case, which was subsequently cancelled, and heard the chief tell county to cancel per the medics and that they would transport by ground. Also the same holds true for the last big house fire they had, heard efverything on Fire Ops 1. I'm not saying they don't use the Fireground frequencies, but from my experiences, I've always heard everything on the Fire Ops 1 frequency.

If they get another call they will switch to one of those fireground channels. can't have 2 calls on the same frequency.

 

[hulka]

Why can't you have 2 calls on the same frequency? If the Fire Ground A,B,C are all low power then you can have 2 stations using Fire A as long as they are across town from each other. If there is and accident at Rt. 571 & Rt. 547 they can talk and not interfer with and ops lets say Rt. 537 & Rt. 527. The is part of the idea of having "low" power on channels. If they are running lets say MCS-2000 at 100 watts and it is not set to low power in the MRSS for those channels when they programed them, then that is another story.

Kevin

 

[Joseph11]

Why can't you have 2 calls on the same frequency? If the Fire Ground A,B,C are all low power then you can have 2 stations using Fire A as long as they are across town from each other. If there is and accident at Rt. 571 & Rt. 547 they can talk and not interfer with and ops lets say Rt. 537 & Rt. 527. The is part of the idea of having "low" power on channels. If they are running lets say MCS-2000 at 100 watts and it is not set to low power in the MRSS for those channels when they programed them, then that is another story.

Kevin

What about the dispatcher?

 

[DJ88]

When elias1988 said you can't have multiple calls on one frequency he was referring to the Fire Ops frequencies which are repeaters, putting out 100 watts. If they had multiple calls, the ops for one call would stay on Fire Ops 1, and the other or others would switch to either Fire Ops 2 or one of the Fireground channels, A,B, or C.

 

[elias1988]

When elias1988 said you can't have multiple calls on one frequency he was referring to the Fire Ops frequencies which are repeaters, putting out 100 watts. If they had multiple calls, the ops for one call would stay on Fire Ops 1, and the other or others would switch to either Fire Ops 2 or one of the Fireground channels, A,B, or C.

Thats exactly what i mean.

 

[elias1988]

Why can't you have 2 calls on the same frequency? If the Fire Ground A,B,C are all low power then you can have 2 stations using Fire A as long as they are across town from each other. If there is and accident at Rt. 571 & Rt. 547 they can talk and not interfer with and ops lets say Rt. 537 & Rt. 527. The is part of the idea of having "low" power on channels. If they are running lets say MCS-2000 at 100 watts and it is not set to low power in the MRSS for those channels when they programed them, then that is another story.

Kevin

What about the dispatcher?

What do you mean "what about the dispatcher" :?:

If you mean can the county dispatcher communicate with fireground command on fireground A,B or C is not possible because A,B,C are mobile only theres no base or repeater; command would have to switch to one of the fire ops frequencies to talk to county.

 

[Joseph11]

Why can't you have 2 calls on the same frequency? If the Fire Ground A,B,C are all low power then you can have 2 stations using Fire A as long as they are across town from each other. If there is and accident at Rt. 571 & Rt. 547 they can talk and not interfer with and ops lets say Rt. 537 & Rt. 527. The is part of the idea of having "low" power on channels. If they are running lets say MCS-2000 at 100 watts and it is not set to low power in the MRSS for those channels when they programed them, then that is another story.

Kevin

What about the dispatcher?

What do you mean "what about the dispatcher" :?:

If you mean can the county dispatcher communicate with fireground command on fireground A,B or C is not possible because A,B,C are mobile only theres no base or repeater; command would have to switch to one of the fire ops frequencies to talk to county.

I misunderstood, nevermind.

 

[elias1988]

Why can't you have 2 calls on the same frequency? If the Fire Ground A,B,C are all low power then you can have 2 stations using Fire A as long as they are across town from each other. If there is and accident at Rt. 571 & Rt. 547 they can talk and not interfer with and ops lets say Rt. 537 & Rt. 527. The is part of the idea of having "low" power on channels. If they are running lets say MCS-2000 at 100 watts and it is not set to low power in the MRSS for those channels when they programed them, then that is another story.

Kevin

What about the dispatcher?

What do you mean "what about the dispatcher" :?:

If you mean can the county dispatcher communicate with fireground command on fireground A,B or C is not possible because A,B,C are mobile only theres no base or repeater; command would have to switch to one of the fire ops frequencies to talk to county.

I misunderstood, nevermind,

Its ok.

 

[ErikAtTheW]

Ok, currently listening to a fire at the Goetz school in Jackson off of Rt 571.

Traffic is on Ops 1 which I am hearing fairly well. I live in Jackson as well.

By "locking up" I mean my scanner stops and hangs on their freqs and just pumps out "white noise." Does this description make any sense?

Thanks.

 

[DJ88]

Glad you're picking them up okay. I heard that fire also, and they called the FD for a motor vehicle accident at the same time. They had all four companies on the road. I get that "lock up" once in a while also on one of the fireground or fire ops channels. I just hit the scan button and by the time it gets back to that channel again it just scans through it without stopping or locking up. I don't know what the noise is or what causes it to lock up like that, but it doesn't happen too often.

 

[kb2vxa]

Hi 601 and all,

"The 460 MHz frequencies are used for some sort of "rebroadcast" of police comms."

That's because they're repeaters, look for the inputs 5mHz up.

 

[DJ88]

If Jackson Twp. PD ever gets their new system up and running, we won't be monitoring them at all. There has been talk for quite some time that they are going to a trunked digital full time encrypted system. Seems as though with the current system, there are dead spots in parts of the township where communications are nil, or poor at best. The frequencies (500 MHz) have been licensed to them for a long time but for some reason, probably monetary, they haven't gone through with it. We will, however, still be able to monitor FD and EMS. The same thing holds true for Manchester Twp, a 400 MHz trunked digital system, unknown about encryption, but probably so. When these two new systems will be up and runnning is anybody's guess.

 

[RocketNJ]

I heard the new PD system will be up by the fall. The equipment installation is supposed to start over the summer.

George

 

[DJ88]

Looks like that may be the end for monitoring them. There's definitely going to be encryption, but whether it's full time or not remains to be seen.

 

[RocketNJ]

Not sure if they will be using digital or encryption but the system will be capable of it.