Jonesboro AWIN Help

[zzdiesel]

I live in Missouri about 55 to 60 miles NE of Jonesboro. I just bought a new RS Pro-197. We have very little digital traffic around here so I listen to AWIN. I receive the ASP and Craighead Co clear but Jonesboro PD garbles quite a bit. It seems like if 2 out of 3 does well, that the other one should too.Anyone have any suggestions or settings I might could change. Thanks in advance.

 

[bubbaearle]

Try this....

.....We have very little digital traffic around here so I listen to AWIN. I receive the ASP and Craighead Co clear but Jonesboro PD garbles quite a bit. It seems like if 2 out of 3 does well, that the other one should too........

Next time ya hear JPD talking hit the F2 key (TSYS) and then hit F3 (Analyz)
Scroll down until ya hear the control channel.....compare it to the list below

153 Pocahontas - 866.08750
154 Hopewell - 866.23750
155 Burdette - 866.55000 / 866.80000 alt
170 Jonesboro - 859.98750 / 860.98750
171 Lake City - 866.12500 / 866.37500 alt

I'd bet you're catching the Hopewell or Burdette tower.

I would guess that Jonesboro PD is only broadcasting from the Jonesboro tower - if it is that would explain the lack of traffic from them.

Craighead SO is probably broadcasting troopwide - if they are that would explain you hearing traffic from them.

The file I sent ya has all the control channels programmed in and Multi Site Mode is set to Roam so you ought to catch the strongest tower nearest you.

Have ya had any luck using that file?

 

[zzdiesel]

Thanks, I didn't install your file per say. I only copied the AWIN systems that I wanted to use. Such as ASP, Jonesboro city and Craighead county. I see that I made the mistake of changing the systems over to Stationary. I'll change things back now to roaming.

 

[bubbaearle]

What the hell are you doing up so late young man?

......I see that I made the mistake of changing the systems over to Stationary. I'll change things back now to roaming.

That only works well if you're roaming......maybe Statoinary should work better.

From the manual:

Your PSR-500 includes a Multi-site feature that can enhance the
operation of the scanner when monitoring Multi-site systems.
Multi-site can be enabled editing the trunking system (TSYS)
parameters for a Motorola or P25 system. Multi-site can be set to
Off, Stat(Stationary) or Roam. By default, Multi-site is set to OFF.
The ROAM setting is ideal for those times when you are driving
around in the service area of a networked trunked radio system,
as it allows the radio to find and use the best tower sites as you
move in and out of the coverage footprints of different sites. The
STAT(ionary) setting is ideal for those times when you are not
moving and are within range of more than one tower site, as it
will allow you to monitor traffic from any tower that you are within
range of.

 

[zzdiesel]

Ok, I see how this works and then change it back if I need to.

 

[wrr20891]

Bubbaearl is probably correct that Jonesboro PD units are just hitting the Jonesboro tower. The AWIN towers will only repeat a signal if a user is in range of and receiving that particular tower. So if no AWIN user is monitoring Jonesboro PD's channels on the towers nearest you, those towers will not repeat the traffic for you to pick up.

 

[bubbaearle]

That's how I reckon it works......

Bubbaearl is probably correct that Jonesboro PD units are just hitting the Jonesboro tower. The AWIN towers will only repeat a signal if a user is in range of and receiving that particular tower. So if no AWIN user is monitoring Jonesboro PD's channels on the towers nearest you, those towers will not repeat the traffic for you to pick up.

I kinda figured that out when I first got my PSR 500..... Phillips Co. SO is on AWIN but I never hear them becouse I'm always hearing the Wynne tower (Fair Oaks actually Hwys 64 & 49) when I'm at he house in Wynne. When I go south towards Forrest City I start hearing them because the ROAM setting hears the Walnut Corner tower (Hwys 1 & 49).

Oh yeah, it's Bubbaearle....with an "e"

 

[zzdiesel]

Is anyone hearing the Craighead Co towns on AWIN? I copied them from Bubbaearle, but I yet to hear any of them.

Does Newport ASP broadcast through any of the Craighead towers? I programmed them but I haven't heard them either.

 

[btritch]

I can hear everything that comes across the Troop C district of AWIN easy.. And No...You will not hear Newport from there. They do not use this area, They're troop B, they have their own set of towers, I cannot hear them either and they're district is only 35 to 40 miles from me, So no, You won't hear the newport troop B district from there, Sorry :-(

 

[zzdiesel]

Thanks btritch, It is strange that I now hear 3 out of 4 Craighead systems. I hear the ASP, Jonesboro PD, Craighead Co Sheriff but not the muncipalities. I'll check the freqs to make they are right.

 

[zzdiesel]

Are these the right talkgroups for these cities? i hear everything else associated with Craighead County except these.

16457 BAY PD Bay - Proprietary Law Talk
16458 BLK OK PD Black Oak - Proprietary Law Talk
16459 BONO PD Bono - Proprietary Law Talk
16460 BRKLND PD Brookland - Proprietary Law Talk
16461 CARWAY PD Carway - Proprietary Law Talk
16462 CASH PD Cash - Proprietary Law Talk
16463 EGYPT PD Egypt - Proprietary Law Talk
16464 LK CTY PD Lake City - Proprietary Law Talk
16465 MONET PD Monet - Proprietary Law Talk

 

[bubbaearle]

C'mon folks.......

Are these the right talkgroups for these cities? i hear everything else associated with Craighead County except these.

16457 BAY PD Bay - Proprietary Law Talk
16458 BLK OK PD Black Oak - Proprietary Law Talk
16459 BONO PD Bono - Proprietary Law Talk
16460 BRKLND PD Brookland - Proprietary Law Talk
16461 CARWAY PD Carway - Proprietary Law Talk
16462 CASH PD Cash - Proprietary Law Talk
16463 EGYPT PD Egypt - Proprietary Law Talk
16464 LK CTY PD Lake City - Proprietary Law Talk
16465 MONET PD Monet - Proprietary Law Talk

I would think that those are for emergency interop only.......those radios are expensive and I bet they only have a base at the PD/FD dispatch and a few handhelds for each town.

Look here to find "old" conventional licenses for those cities......I'm really surprised on one has submitted more rural freqs for Craighead Co., there's a lot here not in the database.

C'mon folks.......listen, log, comfirm & submit! That's what makes Radio Reference work!

 

[zzdiesel]

Thanks, but I'm likely too far away to hear the conventionals. I just thought they used the AWIN system full-time where I could hear them.

 

[wrr20891]

Sorry about the "E" bubbaearle.

And Brian, you are thinking of AWIN incorrectly. Unlike the old trunked 800 system, AWIN towers are not limited to repeating traffic based on troops. The user radio switches to the tower that has the strongest signal, no matter what Troop area the tower is located in. If a Troop B car is receiving a stronger signal from a Troop C tower, that's the tower the car radio will use. Granted, it is more common if a car is around a Troop line or if a tower site is down, but there is no geographic restriction as with the old system.

 

[zzdiesel]

wrr20891, does all the radio traffic go through the whole network or just the state cars?

 

[bubbaearle]

Sorry about the "E" bubbaearle.

And Brian, you are thinking of AWIN incorrectly. Unlike the old trunked 800 system, AWIN towers are not limited to repeating traffic based on troops. The user radio switches to the tower that has the strongest signal, no matter what Troop area the tower is located in. If a Troop B car is receiving a stronger signal from a Troop C tower, that's the tower the car radio will use. Granted, it is more common if a car is around a Troop line or if a tower site is down, but there is no geographic restriction as with the old system.

Yup......that's why - when you have a Wildcard set up - you'll sometimes catch out of area TGID's while scanning. I used to hear White Co. SO all the time when they would catch the Wynne tower while they were in the eastern part of their county.

I'm assuming everyone programs AWIN based on ASP Troops......at least that's the way I do it.

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I used to live in Earle, AR & a co-worker gave me the nickname.......big crazy "Bubba" redneck from Earle.....Bubbaearle

 

[wrr20891]

wrr20891, does all the radio traffic go through the whole network or just the state cars?

Every transmission from an AWIN user goes to the central controllers, no matter if it is a State agency or not. When a user keys their mike, a transmit request goes to the central controllers. The controllers look at which towers have a unit listening to that particular 'channel' and sends the signal out to those towers to be repeated. Using the Jonesboro PD as an example, if all of Jonesboro's units are in the service range of one tower, that is the only one that will transmit. But if one of Jonesboro's cars was across the State, say in Fort Smith, the controller would also activate whatever tower in the Fort Smith area the car was monitoring so he/she would hear the transmission also. So traffic doesn't normally go state-wide automatically, but is parceled out to towers depending on what users are using them.

 

[zzdiesel]

Thank you wrr20891. I think I'm beginning to understand this system. Whoever designed it sure knows their stuff.

 

[bubbaearle]

Every transmission from an AWIN user goes to the central controllers, no matter if it is a State agency or not. ....So traffic doesn't normally go state-wide automatically, but is parceled out to towers depending on what users are using them.

Are all of the ADEM / MAC TGID's statewide? Back in February - when the tornadoes were ripping through - I could hear traffic on various ADEM & MAC CALL TGID's. I was curious as to whether those were statewide or area specific.

I heard the first initial storm damage (wind & hail) reports late that afternoon from the SE counties. And as the night progressed I remember specifically hearing Stone Co. calling for help after the storm struck their hospital.

I have all of the ADEM & MAC TGID's programmed and active in 2 scanlists at all times.

 

[dave90000]

As far as hearing traffic on the MAC channels, All the command and control radios have the mac channels in them and most people have them setup to scan at least MAC Call and Mac 5 so there is a high chance that there will be at least 1 radio on the mac channels for every tower site. I am not for sure how many C&C radios are distributed statewide but locally here all fire and police depts have at least 1 and some have more than 1.

I dont believe there is any per say statewide channels. Only towers with a radio active on that particular talk group will transmit that talk groups traffic.