AngryDev
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Suppose i keek my radio in a Faraday bag. I live in Post Falls, What frequency would i tune to to monitor to listen for official government instructions or information?
Thanks in advanced,
Thanks in advanced,
Just after an EMP
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There probably won't be a whole lot to listen to after an EMP. That's kinda the point.
kayn1n32008
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You are going to have much more pressing problems after an EMP, than what frequency to tune to. Problems like not having any power, and not gettting power back in the short or long term.
I would think if any "clear channel" high power AM stations are still on the air you would tune into those.
BinaryMode
Blondie Once Said To Call Her But Never Answerd
First, if there is an EMP of sorts by an enemy state, don't pull out the EMP protected stuff just right away. Because there will probably be round two.
Second, you're far better off with a shortwave receiver. If the EMP is localized or localized to this country, you WILL still hear Comms from other places in the world if not right here in the U.S. from those that also protected their equipment. And there are people who do.
Protecting a scanner is a good idea I guess, because others may have protected their two-way radios.
The thing is, if an EMP were to happen, there's going to be a lot, and I mean a LOT of desperate, hungry and thirsty people and it will be a real SHTF situation. Expect to be confronted for a simple box of band-aids...
Anyway, just my two worthless copper pennies worth.
Second, you're far better off with a shortwave receiver. If the EMP is localized or localized to this country, you WILL still hear Comms from other places in the world if not right here in the U.S. from those that also protected their equipment. And there are people who do.
Protecting a scanner is a good idea I guess, because others may have protected their two-way radios.
The thing is, if an EMP were to happen, there's going to be a lot, and I mean a LOT of desperate, hungry and thirsty people and it will be a real SHTF situation. Expect to be confronted for a simple box of band-aids...
Anyway, just my two worthless copper pennies worth.
Instead of investing in radios and a Faraday bag and being the only one on the air, I would invest in things that are belt fed. You will be a lot better off.
nd5y
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The same frequency you monitor now for official government instructions or information.
wtp
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tune your tube radio to one of the conelrad stations.
those two little triangles on the dial.
what ?
you have a newer digital AM radio !
they are/were 640 and 1240 on the dial.
and have a good couple of A and B batteries.
i think my age is showing.
those two little triangles on the dial.
what ?
you have a newer digital AM radio !
they are/were 640 and 1240 on the dial.
and have a good couple of A and B batteries.
i think my age is showing.
AB5ID
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Has wide area EMP ever been proven or, is it just a theory?
EMP has not been proven, only theoretical. Probably because anyone who would be in a position to have EMP be an issue, is dead.
Its been tested extensively on a small scale and its something to worry about. And its not intended to cause human casualties.
Look up operation Starfish Prime.
I realize that - but my point is that if you're close enough that EMP is a concern, I'd be more concerned with the 1 million degree temperatures. Being prepared is good, but you also need to be realistic.
If the detonation is at high enough altitude (which increases the range of the EMP), the blast effects would be minimal to nonexistent. I've read that if the detonation was near the upper limits of the atmosphere and centered over Nebraska, electronic devices from coast to coast would be rendered useless. Unless, of course, you used it as a weapon.
If you haven't read this....well, you should. It is damned scary, like Stephen King in his prime level scary, but for an entirely different reason, the topic of this thread.
Sure, it's a fictional account, but in a word, yikes. I expect others here may have read it as well.
Sure, it's a fictional account, but in a word, yikes. I expect others here may have read it as well.
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I was just about to recommend that series of books. They are definitely worth the read.
That book sits on my bookshelf and I read it several years ago. I didn't like that it was more or less a political mouthpiece, but the basic premise was valid. I have a 47 year old Toyota Landcruiser that I bought new in 1977. Originally it did lack all the electronics to run the engine. I got tired of setting the dwell and the timing every time I did a tune up so I bought an electronic ignition system that all fits into the distributor so I suppose it is now subject to an EMP. It does eliminate the possibility of the points breaking, which happened on a 74 Volkswagen Super Beetle I had and in a somewhat remote area of Colorado after a zero degree night. Anyway, I installed the electronic ignition in the Landcruiser back in 2007 when my brain was up to the task. It isn't up to those kinds of tasks now.
One other thought on EMPs. One of my nephews has a shed on the property he bought in the Lake Tahoe Basin. He decided to put his ham shack in this shed. As he was beefing it up to handle snow load better he decided to cover the interior walls with thick sheet metal. While doing this he thought, if I do this correctly, I can make this shack a Faraday cage. He even installed a door so that there are no leaks around the frame of the door. He has some type of hookup on his antennas that shunt off the current in his coax so an EMP won't fry all of his internal electronics. I haven't been up to view what he did, but I think a visit is long overdue and I want to see how he accomplished all of this.
An effective faraday shield to survive EMP is much more complicated than that, usually having at least one complete copper layer then a separate layer of ferrous metal with lots of low resistance contact fingers around any door opening to provide a low impedance path around or across the door. I've been in places designed specifically to survive a nuclear event like the below ground can't talk about it areas of Falcon AFB (now Schriever AFB) in CO and many Tempest shielded rooms, and have watched as they performed compliance testing. It would take a lot of $$ just in sheet metal to build to those standards then it needs to be tested for survivability. Building something without the means to test it is a waste of time and $$, how would you even know it works?
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