I was wondering. Are there any plans to update that decades old analog pager system if there is an upgrade?
Just out of curiosity (& a little boredom)
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The ones they all carry on their belts.
You may want to specify who “they” are.
FD/EMS pagers
And a digital system is incapable of voice?
Funny, I thought we were monitoring digital transmissions on all these scanners.
Or just being obtuse? What agency are you referring to?
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Ye Gads! Not obtuse, but densely populated.
Ok, let me explain it better to people that may still be on the 'siren on the poll' dispatching system......
When central wants to alert a certain fire district of a fire, they send out a series of analog tones (that anybody monitoring can hear) that trigger the proper pagers worn by the fire/EMS personnel, before the actual voice transmission.
Now, in a digital truncking system like we have here in Jersey, when someone keys a mike a signal goes out that causes everyone's radio in that 'talk group' to lock on that specific frequency. Folks monitoring those systems don't hear that signal, just the voice transmission.
Monitoring the dispatch channel would be a lot more pleasant without those screeching analog tones. And given that we're deep into the digital age now, I would think the old analog paging system would be considered antiquated.
When central wants to alert a certain fire district of a fire, they send out a series of analog tones (that anybody monitoring can hear) that trigger the proper pagers worn by the fire/EMS personnel, before the actual voice transmission.
Now, in a digital truncking system like we have here in Jersey, when someone keys a mike a signal goes out that causes everyone's radio in that 'talk group' to lock on that specific frequency. Folks monitoring those systems don't hear that signal, just the voice transmission.
Monitoring the dispatch channel would be a lot more pleasant without those screeching analog tones. And given that we're deep into the digital age now, I would think the old analog paging system would be considered antiquated.
So, your takeaway from all the posts in this thread is that no one knows how analog QCII paging works? Instead of realizing that we were asking you which agency's paging system you were specifically referring to, you give us an explanation of how it works? Amazing.
Anyway, I'll play along. Most digital paging talkgroups still carry the tones along with the voice, so your assertion that you'd only hear the voice dispatch by monitoring such a paging TG is going to be false in most cases. Whether you listen to the "antiquated" analog paging frequency, or monitor the digital paging talkgroup, you're probably still going to hear those gosh darn annoying tones.
I would suggest that you do some reading up on how digital tone signaling, aka QCII over P25, actually works. APX subscribers setup to alert require the tones, as do Unication G Series pagers if they're setup for QCII instead of the horribly inefficient dedicated talkgroup method.
Oh and analog paging isn't going anywhere in most cases, because it's very reliable and it would cost a fortune to replace relatively cheap analog pagers with digital capable units. If it ain't broken...
Anyway, I'll play along. Most digital paging talkgroups still carry the tones along with the voice, so your assertion that you'd only hear the voice dispatch by monitoring such a paging TG is going to be false in most cases. Whether you listen to the "antiquated" analog paging frequency, or monitor the digital paging talkgroup, you're probably still going to hear those gosh darn annoying tones.
I would suggest that you do some reading up on how digital tone signaling, aka QCII over P25, actually works. APX subscribers setup to alert require the tones, as do Unication G Series pagers if they're setup for QCII instead of the horribly inefficient dedicated talkgroup method.
Oh and analog paging isn't going anywhere in most cases, because it's very reliable and it would cost a fortune to replace relatively cheap analog pagers with digital capable units. If it ain't broken...
Don't hear digital signals that trigger the talk groups, why can't they trigger pagers?
Lets make it interesting...how about Bloomingdale and their fire dispatch on UHF over....DMR.
The “siren on the pole” dispatching isn’t going away any time soon, far to reliable to dump in most cases.
And probably cheaper in the long run.
It was briefly talked about here.
$300 Mintior Pager vs $650-750 Unication killed the idea.
Howie...I'm not quite following the word salad you're making. Lets start with the basics....
1) what COUNTY
2) what AGENCY
3) what model PAGER
1) what COUNTY
2) what AGENCY
3) what model PAGER
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