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Good day, I’m interested in motorola and kenwood, I’d like to ask if motorola XiR c1200 and kenwood TKR 850 are compatible? If yes? How?
 

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The TKR-850 is a UHF analog repeater. It'll work with the Motorola if it's the UHF model and in analog mode only.
 

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The TKR-850 is a UHF analog repeater. It'll work with the Motorola if it's the UHF model and in analog mode only.
This will not work in digital mode right since the repeater is an NXDN?
 

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This will not work in digital mode right since the repeater is an NXDN?

No.

The TKR-850 is ANALOG only. It does not do NXDN. It does not do DMR. It does not do P25.

The Motorola radio you asked about does ANALOG and DMR.

The only way to make these two work together is in ANALOG mode. That is the commonality between them.
 

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How about the software used to each device to configure it, can it be a problem?
 

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How about the software used to each device to configure it, can it be a problem?

Not exactly sure what you mean here.

The Kenwood TKR-850 needs to be programmed using correct software to function on the frequency pair you are licensed for in your country. The repeater will have a Country Code, and the programming software/activation code will need to be of the same country code for it to work correctly.

The repeater duplexer will need to be tuned on site by a competent trained technician with the correct test equipment.

The Motorola radios will need to be properly programmed with their correct software by a competent technician to work on the frequency pair the repeater is working on.
 

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i just need to configure the radio and repeater with the same settings?
 

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i just need to configure the radio and repeater with the same settings?

That's over simplifying it.

A repeater that old needs to be tested/aligned to make sure it's working correctly. That requires the right tools/test equipment/knowledge/skill.
The repeater needs to be programmed correctly. It needs to match whatever your license permits.
The duplexer needs to be tuned. That requires the right tools/test equipment/knowledge/skill. If not done correctly, it's going to have very poor range.

If you've got all that covered, then the portable radios need to be programmed.
But it's not as simple as programming it identically to the repeater. Things will actually be reversed. The repeater transmits on one frequency, and the portable radios receive on that frequency. The repeater receives on another frequency, and the portable radios transmit on that frequency.

Repeaters are not simple things to install. We go through this frequently on this site. People will buy a used repeater and assume that it is simple to set up. They then spend another few thousand dollars trying to make it work correctly.
Just make sure you understand all this before purchasing any equipment. It's not a simple process.
 
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