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KPG-D1N on a Mac using Virtual Machine/Parallels?

lucasec

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Parallel to this thread but thought I'd open a new one for better discoverability in the future. I also found a few mentions of Macs in older discussions (including some suggestion it works fine) but haven't seen any recent reports, so thought I'd see if anyone can come out of the woodwork and report if they have had success.

I need to get KPG-D1N set up for the first time and am trying to decide which computer to install it on. Main issue I want to avoid is accidentally getting the license locked to a computer where it doesn't work. It sounds like it's relatively easy to deactivate and move the D1N key, but moving the LMC between computers requires additional account seats?

Anyway, my choices are:
1. Current MacBook with M1 chip, with Parallels running the ARM version of Windows 11 in a VM
2. Older MacBook with Intel chip, with Parallels running the Intel version of Windows 10 in a VM
3. Windows 11 desktop

Portable is obviously better, and not having to carry two laptops is also nice, so I'm inclined to try in that order if it is relatively low risk. My experience is about 90% of Windows software I need to use works on option 1 (including some Kenwood CPS for one of their amateur radio products), with most issues coming from when an obscure device driver needs to be installed. 99.5% works on option 2, unless the developer went way out of their way to defeat VM usage or it requires nested virtualization.
 

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the problem lays with the License management client and the machine ID, where as, the VM MIED will change, thus an active KPG-Dx software is active, renders it unusable, because the MEID changes, (anti-piracy trigger).
Yes it can work, but KWD will tell you "You're using it at your own risks".

Just so you know.
 

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Yeah, I guess the question is what the exact identifier they use to calculate the "MEID" is. CPU ID, HDD ID, etc. should all stay stable so this was where I was curious to see if anyone has experience with this in practice.
 

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I used KPG-D1N for many years on an intel MacBook Pro including moving authorization back and forth with other computers as well as programming radios by usb cable. I now have a M4 running VM Win11 arm. The software will run but you cannot connect to radios on usb (driver issues). My NX radios do not have BT programming license so no first hand knowledge on if it will work for shooting radios. So far all my radio software runs on M4 (Kenwood, Armada, various Motorola, Barrett, amateur radio stuff and unication). It’s the communication with the outside world, particularly usb and Bluetooth that is the problem. I HAVE been successful programming my VP8000 using WiFi. I don’t have any Wi-Fi enabled Motorola’s at the moment to test. I spent a few hours seeing if I could use BT, especially on APX without any success on M4 (BT programming for APX does work on my native Win PC’s). I even used a BT dongle ported to VM windows machine bypassing M4’s internal Bluetooth. There may be a way to do it but I’ve yet to figure it out.

Summation: Software works but connecting to radios, especially by usb will not go well. Wi-Fi may work with Kenwoods that have it since my VP8000 does. Wi-Fi and Motorola untested by me so far. ARM Is lagging well behind on drivers. My amateur gear I’ve tried and my Unication pager seems to connect by usb.
I do work on codeplugs on my M4, I just have to use another computer to shoot radios. Real PC way to go for now.
 
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