LA RICS - "Encryption Wins"

[speedway_navigator]

From the latest board of director's meeting minutes.

Encryption Wins – Apprehension made with suspect that was using analog scanner

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As Elton said, 'don't shoot me, I'm just the piano player'

 

[MtnBiker2005]

Source link. (Page 11)
Link: https://www.la-rics.org/wp-content/uploads/FINAL-PACKET_pdd-1.pdf

Link: JPA Board | LA-RICS – Los Angeles Regional Interoperable Communications System

 

[KG7PBS]

There not a thing in this PDF about Encryption I looked at page 11

 

[scannernerd55]

There not a thing in this PDF about Encryption I looked at page 11

Middle of page 11
FEED BACK FROM EARLY DEPLOYMENT
Third bullet point

 

[MtnBiker2005]

PDF page 11
or
AGENDA ITEM A Page 5 in the lower right corner that’s printed/typed on that document....

 

[Giddyuptd]

With CHP, LAPD, LASD and other agencies following the APX standard Deplyoment there it shouldnt be issue with key management and other steps to have interoperability with secure configurations.

 

[Giddyuptd]

From the latest board of director's meeting minutes.

Encryption Wins – Apprehension made with suspect that was using analog scanner

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As Elton said, 'don't shoot me, I'm just the piano player'

I do find it funny they call it analog scanner while LAPD is digital. Another misonception these days if it isn't phase 2 or tdma people call it analog on conventional digital as well as digital with non AES.

 

[allend]

There should be no mystery here with LA-RICS and encryption. Encryption was part of the plan since day one. Now do you really think they are going to build this start of the art system and not use encryption. Everything is going to be encrypted over time everywhere now. There will be no more systems built out in Socal where they wont use encryption.

 

[APX7500X2]

Thanks for posting that, It is nice to see a system being put in with that much attention and all the work on getting it right the first time.
With big systems like that Encryption is easy to use and can all be done over the air and given and taken away at a moments notice, it really a great and easy system to use, my department covers 3 states and multi systems and we are moving to using the same type of system that will coordinate the keys over 5 different trunk system simultaneously so all services will get the keys and be able to talk.

 

[speedway_navigator]

It is nice to see a system being put in with that much attention and all the work on getting it right the first time.

They hit a snag with RFI from channel 15 in Mexico, it looks like they are leaning towards having ch 15 move, way too many engineering changes needed to work around it if it were possible.

 

[dgower]

I do find it funny they call it analog scanner while LAPD is digital. Another misonception these days if it isn't phase 2 or tdma people call it analog on conventional digital as well as digital with non AES.

It was an analog scanner. The incident occurred in LASD jurisdiction.

 

[maus92]

There should be no mystery here with LA-RICS and encryption. Encryption was part of the plan since day one. Now do you really think they are going to build this start of the art system and not use encryption. Everything is going to be encrypted over time everywhere now. There will be no more systems built out in Socal where they wont use encryption.

Encryption is certainly easier in P25 environments, but just because the system is "state of the art" doesn't mean encryption will become the norm. The statewide system that is being built in Maryland is a mix of fully and partially encrypted law enforcement agencies. Fully encrypted agencies tend to be sheriff's departments in smaller (less populous) counties, while the state police keep their routine operations in the clear. Fire departments using the system use no encryption. The trend (at least in Maryland) seems that powerful (less accountable to oversight) sheriffs can dictate encryption, whereas organizations with more oversight (like police departments) use encryption where it is needed. For now. The state's Natural Resources Police that enforces hunting, fishing and boating regulations started out fully encrypted, but since they routinely interoperate with multiple agencies using multiple radio systems during SAR incidents found encryption a hindrance to effective communications. So now they operate in the clear.

 

[allend]

Encryption is certainly easier in P25 environments, but just because the system is "state of the art" doesn't mean encryption will become the norm. The statewide system that is being built in Maryland is a mix of fully and partially encrypted law enforcement agencies. Fully encrypted agencies tend to be sheriff's departments in smaller (less populous) counties, while the state police keep their routine operations in the clear. Fire departments using the system use no encryption. The trend (at least in Maryland) seems that powerful (less accountable to oversight) sheriffs can dictate encryption, whereas organizations with more oversight (like police departments) use encryption where it is needed. For now. The state's Natural Resources Police that enforces hunting, fishing and boating regulations started out fully encrypted, but since they routinely interoperate with multiple agencies using multiple radio systems during SAR incidents found encryption a hindrance to effective communications. So now they operate in the clear.

Well it seems you don't know how Southern California is rolling these days with full encryption.

 

[maus92]

Well it seems you don't know how Southern California is rolling these days with full encryption.

Elect different leaders, and don't re-elect sheriffs who lobby for encryption.

 

[PaulNDaOC]

Elect different leaders, and don't re-elect sheriffs who lobby for encryption.

At an agency like LASD, I doubt the Sheriff would have given it more than five minutes of his time over the course of a year.

He has people for that until its time to beg or manipulate for funding. The details are beneath him.

 

[WX4JCW]

Ever notice the political makeup of where the most encryption is?


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[Outerdog]

Ever notice the political makeup of where the most encryption is?

Do you have any data to support that statement? Our are you hanging your argument on that weasel-word "most"?