Lancaster ny pd on saianet?

[eastpembroke29]

I am monitoring saianet system Lancaster site . tonight and hearing Lancaster pd not encrypted on talk group 511401 But the normal dmr channel is still encrypted ? Not sure if they are testing or what

 

[lkas]

nice find, I am picking them up as well. Hopefully this means they are switching to Saianet and will not be encrypted. I started programing my sds-100 with unit id numbers already. So far each car is coming up with a unique radio id number so it is not a patch. It appears as if they fully switched over. Time will tell

 

[eastpembroke29]

I hope so I am just surprised that they wouldn’t go back to full time encryption

 

[lkas]

I hope so I am just surprised that they wouldn’t go back to full time encryption

Hopefully not. I would think they would have had the radios encrypted when they went live. I assume if they go encrypted now all the radios have to be re-programmed.

 

[eastpembroke29]

I don’t understand why they are on saianet tho because they have there own dmr system

 

[lkas]

I don’t understand why they are on saianet tho because they have there own dmr system

Who knows, maybe they had issues with their DMR setup and it was more cost effective to switch. This past year Lackawanna and West Seneca police both switched to saianet. Depew was playing on the system last year. It seems to be a good system for the towns/villages plus provides better coverage probably for them. I hope they just stay on saianet as is because it seems to be working good. It would be nice if cheektowaga police/fire upgraded to a digital radio as well.

 

[GTR8000]

Saia has been pretty aggressive in pushing this system, so it's no surprise to see more and more public safety agencies switching to it, regardless of whatever resources of their own they had in place. There are a number of reasons why an agency might switch to a wide-area system like SaiaNet, despite there being an existing repeater or system already in place for said agency. Sometimes the reason is as simple as effective salesmanship! 👀

 

[eastpembroke29]

I am just kind of shocked that they didn’t go encrypted because on their normal DMR channel it’s full-time encrypted

 

[Trbogeek]

Saia has been pretty aggressive in pushing this system, so it's no surprise to see more and more public safety agencies switching to it, regardless of whatever resources of their own they had in place. There are a number of reasons why an agency might switch to a wide-area system like SaiaNet, despite there being an existing repeater or system already in place for said agency. Sometimes the reason is as simple as effective salesmanship! 👀

Console to subscriber, complete warrenty, additional resources, interoperability, high availability, public safety reliability, pretty much sells itself.

 

[GTR8000]

I am just kind of shocked that they didn’t go encrypted because on their normal DMR channel it’s full-time encrypted

Or you can just enjoy listening to them again instead of continuing to mention the lack of encryption.

 

[Trbogeek]

Who knows, maybe they had issues with their DMR setup and it was more cost effective to switch. This past year Lackawanna and West Seneca police both switched to saianet. Depew was playing on the system last year. It seems to be a good system for the towns/villages plus provides better coverage probably for them. I hope they just stay on saianet as is because it seems to be working good. It would be nice if cheektowaga police/fire upgraded to a digital radio as well.

Why would Cheektowaga choose to convert to digital, with their existing system performing so well?

 

[GTR8000]

Why would Cheektowaga choose to convert to digital, with their existing system performing so well?

"Console to subscriber, complete warranty, additional resources, interoperability, high availability, public safety reliability, pretty much sells itself."

 

[Trbogeek]

"Console to subscriber, complete warranty, additional resources, interoperability, high availability, public safety reliability, pretty much sells itself."

Not after spending what they spent 😉🤑

 

[joespca1]

Cheektowaga pd is slowly upgrading radios to apx4000. Assuming they will go p25

 

[lkas]

anyone having issues missing the beginning of transmissions? I have a sds100 with omni x antenna. I am getting a strong signal. I have it set for only the lancaster site and have just the control channel programmed in. It seems many times i hear dispatch acknowledge a car calling but i did not pickup the initall call of the car calling on the radio. I have the squelch set at 1. I have played with the hold time from 0 to 4 seconds with no luck. I have a simaliar issue with west seneca pd on saianet as well.

 

[lkas]

Cheektowaga pd is slowly upgrading radios to apx4000. Assuming they will go p25

p25 coming in 2023 or 2024???

 

[joespca1]

p25 coming in 2023 or 2024???

Don't know but one would assume soon

 

[joespca1]

Here's what I found in the meeting minutes.

18. Burkard/_________ Approve Expenditure Of Funds For Outdated Radio System Police
Department To Saia Communications, Inc. [Police Department]

https://www.lancasterny.gov/document-center/town-board-minutes-agendas/2023-town-board-meetings-agendas-minutes/5821-3-20-2023-tba.html

 

[joespca1]

182. Captain Jonathan Ziders to Town Board –
Request for resolution authorizing the purchase, installation, maintenance and
licensing of a new radio system for the Lancaster Police Department from Saia
Communications, Inc., 100 Stradtman Street, Buffalo, NY. Disposition =

 

[lkas]

182. Captain Jonathan Ziders to Town Board –
Request for resolution authorizing the purchase, installation, maintenance and
licensing of a new radio system for the Lancaster Police Department from Saia
Communications, Inc., 100 Stradtman Street, Buffalo, NY. Disposition =

sounds like its offical