LATIE System Updates

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dlively

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I got a BC996T from UPS at 8:45 Fri. night. I put 4 Latie sites in a system, site 1 is 101 N. O., site 2 is 103 Unknown, site 3 is 903 Slidell, site 4 is 905 St. Bernard. I finally got it scanning and am getting Plaq. SO Disp on the N.O. site and StBSO Dispatch on the St. Bernard site. While trying to get this to work I manually scrolled to the St. Bernard Site and got SID: 014Dh - 0101 and 764.2875 displayed. I am getting nothing from sites 2 & 3. Don't know if this will help anyone (Lou) but now that I know the 996T will track I will try adding more sites. N.O. is received with 1-2 bars on the sig strength while St. Bernard is 3 bars. The 996T is generally sounds very good on P25 except some garbling if sig. strength drops. I am in the Slidell Eden Isles area and have a discone at about 30'. Any suggestions for what other sites to try next etc. give a shout
 

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Good deal!

Okay, now let me tell you the story as I understand it right now (subject to change of course). That SysID 14d is not specifically the LATIE system. Actually the word I am getting is that it really belongs to Plaq. Parish and in the future will be used by the Admin, Detectives, Supervisors, Special Ops, etc. It may well be shared with St. B. Parish. According to my source, the normal dispatch of those parishes will stay on LATIE. If that system will be linked with LATIE or not or even what the relationship will be I don't know yet; hopefully people like you will be able to answer those questions.

As to what to do in your instance, let me suggest the following; start a new system (skip the GPS stuff in this instance) and put all of the frequencies listed for all of the sites in the 100's in it. One of those is bound to be a site in the St. Tammany area (or at least something closer to you.) Remember, on your radio, you can L/O programmed trunking frequencies and the radio will ignore them when seeking a CCh, so you can start with everything and then L/O the ones that you don't want to monitor. Also another trick is that if you program the ones closest to you at the top of the list it will be found before it finds any further down the list so this is another "trick" you can use to cut down on the number of systems you have to program. (This works "most" of the time.)

I will be back in the area later this week and over the weekend (for a wedding) but my time will be so pressed, I am not sure how much time I can devote to LATIE research.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions Lou, I will try to do that tonight if I have the energy after finishing the installation of my new front door. I started Sat. and worked so hard my wife felt sorry for me Sun. and let me play last evening with the new toy.

I will enter each of the sites in the 100's and put quick keys on them to make them easy to turn off and on. I am not making use of the GPS features right now as I am fixed base for now so I have been leaving it turned off. I understand that there is some way to use the Search & Store feature on trunked systems to gather talk group info. I tried last night but couldn't seem to get it to work, was glad to just scan the Latie sites I put in. I am sort of hit and miss on my time what with having to move my stuff around the house as I work in different areas. Hopefully I will get the radio equipment back upstairs soon where it will stay and not have to be moved around to accomodate reconstruction.

Seems to me on the Air, Rail and Marine bands that this 996T makes the 2096 seem deaf, don't know on the 700-800 mhz yet though.
 

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I passed through Jeanerette today on Hwy 90 as I do often. There seems to be two short new white looking antennas at the top of the state tower. Never seen them there before. They are higher than the two black antennas (I suppose the older 800 antennas) that have been there for a long time. Could that be the new 700 antennas. If so they seem to installed a head of schedule. I live in the Morgan City/Berwick area. When I am back in Berwick I will look at the Berwick tower and see if there are any new antennas there. Maybe things may be up and running on 700 sooner than expected in other areas than the phase 1 area.
 

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The other 700 might be the precursor to the new NOLA 700 that they are replacing the EDACS PV with????? Anyone monitoring both systems on a seperate banking to determine what the traffic is???
 

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LATIE System for Washington Parish

Guys, I have identified a tower on the system that I believe to be in Washington Parish. I did a search as Loumaag described and snagged a CC on 765.16875. I plugged it into my 2096 as a Motorola System channel. It locks on as a CC and gives me the following 3 screens:
96: BEE00
96:SY1BD
96:T0108
I have a signal strength in the 92% to 98% range.

Now I have done the work. Somebody tell me what all this means.

Scanning from the Northshore
 
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Twister234 said:
Guys, I have identified a tower on the system that I believe to be in Washington Parish. I did a search as Loumaag described and snagged a CC on 765.16875. I plugged it into my 2096 as a Motorola System channel. It locks on as a CC and gives me the following 3 screens:
96: BEE00
96:SY1BD
96:T0108
I have a signal strength in the 92% to 98% range.

Now I have done the work. Somebody tell me what all this means.

Scanning from the Northshore
The "BEE00" is the WACN or network ID. The "SY1BD" is the LATIE P25 system ID (1bd), and the "T0108" is the tower or site ID number. That tower ID by the way is actually two numbers, "01" and "08", breaking down as system 01 and site 08.

I will add that in the next few minutes to the DB.

I was in NOLA over the weekend and did a little research on the LATIE and the St. Bernard systems, which are not connected. Also, other than the mistake of putting the St. Bernard site in the LATIE system, there is no separate New Orleans site, or Jefferson, or LaPlace so I suspect there is no separate Slidell either. I will be removing all of them (the 900's sites) later today and setting up a separate system for the St. Bernard system.

Just as a general comment, I have looked into it as much as I can and I suspect that rumors that NOLA public safety is going to abandon the EDACS system they are currently using are just that, rumors. Yes of course NOLA officials will use the LATIE sytsem (especially for emergency ops) and I suspect that the LATIE system will be patched into the NO Public Safety system, but I don't think they are going to do away with current system. Read that as NOPD will continue to use ProVoice.
 

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loumaag said:
Just as a general comment, I have looked into it as much as I can and I suspect that rumors that NOLA public safety is going to abandon the EDACS system they are currently using are just that, rumors. Yes of course NOLA officials will use the LATIE sytsem (especially for emergency ops) and I suspect that the LATIE system will be patched into the NO Public Safety system, but I don't think they are going to do away with current system. Read that as NOPD will continue to use ProVoice.

Lou, I was watching CSPAN a couple of weeks ago, and they were talking with whom I believe was Warren Riley, and he said that the city was going to implement a new Project 25 TRS, that would be a subsystem of the 700 MHz LATIE Network. The City felt that it was critical that NO be on the same page as the rest of the state. Apparently, the money for this project is coming from federal disaster funds.

73's

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new LATIE site , the new site is on the 500 foot tower by independence park in baton rouge. the antennas are on the tower and the equipment is installed. it is not working yet. there is still a little more work to be done on it.
 

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Thunderbolt said:
Lou, I was watching CSPAN a couple of weeks ago, and they were talking with whom I believe was Warren Riley, and he said that the city was going to implement a new Project 25 TRS, that would be a subsystem of the 700 MHz LATIE Network. The City felt that it was critical that NO be on the same page as the rest of the state. Apparently, the money for this project is coming from federal disaster funds.

73's

Ron

I watched something on a clip on the net a while back and they stated the same thing, that NOLA would go with the new 700 system as LATIE.

But things could change?
 

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Obviously things change as time goes on. I believe we better stick with what we know, as opposed to what we think. Right now we know that NO Public Safety is still using the EDACS system. We know that some agencies in Orleans Parish use LATIE and we know that various other entities (like Plaq. Parish) use LATIE while we now know that St. Bernard (for some strange reason) is not but rather using a unconnected separate 700 MHz system.

As I say, things will change and the best we can do is to update after the changes take place. :cool:
 

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Here is some info that I got while driving through LSU using a PRO96

CC - 774.29375
BEE00
SY1BD
T0101E

This site does not seem to have much coverage. 99% on campus and thru southdowns, 86-95% on I-10 up to Bluebonnett and <50% past Bluebonnett, 0% past seigen.
 

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ajl442 said:
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T0101E
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You have too many characters there. I think you wrote it down wrong, what you should have seen was "T010E", which is site 114 (Baton Rouge) here in the DB.

For general information, the Pro-96/2096 shows the tower in HEX but as a two digit HEX number and they mean different things, in the example above:
T = Tower
01 = Network 1
0E = Site 14
Here at RR we record the tower numbers for P25 using the decimal equivalent of the two hex digits so we have it as site 114. If it was on Network 2 it would be recorded as 214, etc. Don't confuse the WACN number "BEE00" with the network, although it deals with the Wide Area network, each system has it's own internal network (usually, St. Bernard being a good exception.)
 

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There has been a report that Troop B dispatch can be heard on TG 5031 on LATIE. I wonder if someone could listen on both the 800 and LATIE and see if they can figure if it is a patch or a separate dispatch on LATIE alone.
 

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Monitoring Voice Channels on 2096

Since my 2096 will not trunk the 700 system, I am trying to monitor the voice channels. Should i enter them as "MO" or "FM"? Thanks in advance for the help.
 

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Twister234 said:
Since my 2096 will not trunk the 700 system, I am trying to monitor the voice channels. Should i enter them as "MO" or "FM"? Thanks in advance for the help.
Put them in as "FM". And of course don't put in the CCh.

On the TG 5031 issue I posted earlier. When I was there last Friday, it was repeating NOPD Dist 1 traffic, so apparently it is not Troop B dispatch; however, I don't think it is NOPD either so.... Interestingly enough, where I heard it was off Tower 109 in the BR area and 104 in LaPlace. What with the state getting so involved with the activities in NOLA, I bet you guys in BR could really help out with this.
 

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Another new site

Tonight I am receiving Site 0105 on control channel 764.16875. Add another one to the list.
 

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HEY LOUMAG
THE LSU POLICE IS USING TALKGROUP 17001 ON THE LATIE, AND I
HEARD SOME TRAFFIC ON TALKGROUP 65500 SUNDAY AFTERNOON, I BELIEVE THEY WERE RADIO TECHS WORKING ON THE INTEROPERABILITY LINKS . THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THE SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING BY THE END OF THIS MONTH (JULY 31ST)
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bc396 & bc 796
 

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I am recieving site 0122 - CCh 764.2062, and site 0124 - CCh 764.1937 in the Calcasieu /Jefferson Davis Parish ,add these to the list also.I am using a BC396T. tbrady.
 
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