Leaked Uniden stuff

[lajvc]

This is from an EX Uniden employee who was working on this project. As you can see this is a press release in progress.
As you see the next generation scanner use's palm PC and wireless technology.
The new radio will have intelligent data detection which will be able to indentify trunked radio data channels and autoprogram the protocol including Trunked Apco 25 radio systems.
The unit would be capable of recording 2 hours plus of audio depending on the memory card installed



Uniden America Corporation (to be announced) that is will be introducing a new line of next generation Digital Trunking scanner radio. Representing the first new generation of compact handheld palm scanners. The TBA series, delivering never-before-seen features, including color displays, touch screens and wireless computer access. Available to consumers in early 2007, The TBA series supplements Unden’s current suite of handheld and mobile scanner radios.

Uniden’s TBA series will be compact palm PC style design, large color displays and new user-friendly programming features. The flagship model, the TBA will introduce a full feature 2.4 gig wireless remote computer technology, a full 10 key touch screen, voice recording capableness’ built in radio scanner control software and a large 4” color display.

The TBA uses the new dynamically allocated memory system allowing the user to dynamically program its 9900+_ channels in any configuration desired. While traditional trunked scanners have been limited to only monitor no more than one trunked radio system, the TBA can simultaneously monitor up to 4.

Uniden’s exclusive TBA RF Spectrum Technology allows RF spectrum monitor on nearby transmissions with>>>>>>>>>

The TBA comes complete with TBA batteries, internal recharging, USB docking cradle, PC programming and control. Key features include:

 

[kg4icg]

yeah right and pigs can fly too!

R Collins

 

[rdale]

It all sounds nice, but...

"While traditional trunked scanners have been limited to only monitor no more than one trunked radio system, the TBA can simultaneously monitor up to 4."

Something's amiss with that line ;>

- Rob

 

[Thayne]

But by the time it comes out, Hillary might be president--- :lol:

 

[jastx]

It reads more like a hoax than a press release to me.

 

[ROBERTROUSE]

UNIDEN SCANNERS

Sounds Very Good To Me I like Uniden Products.

R.R.

 

[UPMan]

It is a hoax.

This April Fools post was better: Uniden to offer Universal Scanner

 

[Butelsoftware]

It is certainly possible to do this. One of my Bc796 scanners is in the trunk of my car as a 'black box' with a Pocket PC at the dashboard.
A pocket PC/Palm could certainly be integrated in a 'new' BC796 housing.

We are experimenting with Bluetooth modules to get a wireless link with the BC796 blackbox. In theory the Pocket PC (or Palm) can store as many freq's as memory is available and send datafiles to the scanner.
Also GPS can be integrated so while you are driving the pocket PC automatically reprograms the scanner for local frequencies of the area you are driving in....

Current Pocket PC project RSC2 can be seen at http://www.butel.nl/pocket/pocket.html or http://www.scannermaster.com

Gommert

 

[Voyager]

It all sounds nice, but...

"While traditional trunked scanners have been limited to only monitor no more than one trunked radio system, the TBA can simultaneously monitor up to 4."

Something's amiss with that line ;>

- Rob

Yes and no. It is possible, but you would need to have four receivers to monitor the four control channels.

It is true that current scanners can only monitor one trunked system at a time. When you scan several, you are sampling each one for a second or more, then the next, etc.

Of course, if you consider monitoring to be the same as scanning, the entire line makes no sense, as there were never scanners made that would scan only one TRS. For it to make any sense, simultaneous monitoring is what has to be implied.

Joe M.

 

[Butelsoftware]

Scanners like the Icom R20 have dual VFO that can monitor 2 frequencies at the same time without really needing 2 seperate receivers. It depends on how far the 2 freqs are seperated from each other. Many modern HAM transceivers use this method for 'dual watch'.

In theory this 'trick' makes it possible to listen to more than one control channel at the same time, but firmware in the scanner needs to handle this.

Gommert
www.butelsoftware.com

 

[rdale]

"It is possible, but you would need to have four receivers to monitor the four control channels."

Understood - do we ever forsee a day when a scanner maker puts four receivers in one unit? Or the better question - why?

"the entire line makes no sense, as there were never scanners made that would scan only one TRS."

BC235.

- Rob

 

[KME507]

That sounds too good to be true. Even if it was, that's just going to cost way to much money to buy one. I think the scanners they have out now are ridiculously overpriced. :roll:

 

[N_Jay]

That sounds too good to be true. Even if it was, that's just going to cost way to much money to buy one. I think the scanners they have out now are ridiculously overpriced. :roll:

SDR will fix this "some day", but I would not count on it for at least 10 years.

The idea with SDR would be the processing of a wide bandwidth and letting the DSP decode the information.

The short term fix would be multiple VCOs, IFs and demods.

 

[Voyager]

"It is possible, but you would need to have four receivers to monitor the four control channels."

Understood - do we ever forsee a day when a scanner maker puts four receivers in one unit? Or the better question - why?

Uhhh... to receive multiple trunk systems at the same time? :roll:

"the entire line makes no sense, as there were never scanners made that would scan only one TRS."

BC235.

- Rob

Nope - I have one and it will scan one
system per bank (10 banks = 10 systems).

Joe M.

 

[UPMan]

In addition to 4 receivers, it would have to have either 1 CPU that is 4 times more powerful or 4 CPUs to keep up with the control channel on each system.

I'm guessing we could make such a product for a retail around $2500. Any takers?

Again, while there are some interesting debates and discussions in this thread, let me emphasize that the original post was a hoax.

 

[rdale]

"Nope - I have one and it will scan one ystem per bank (10 banks = 10 systems). "

Hmm, I was not aware. I know it can't do trunking & conventional at the same time - I didn't know it could trunktrack over multiple banks (mine's been long sold.) I wonder why it could trunk multiple systems, but not alternate between trunked & conventional til the 245XLT came out?

- Rob

 

[CAT]

I'm guessing we could make such a product for a retail around $2500. Any takers?

I think Uniden and GRE are both missing the boat on the high-end scanner market.

Look at some of the top of the line AOR radios: AR-ONE ($5500), AR5000 ($3200) and Icom radios: IC-R8500 ($2000), IC-7800 ($13,000), IC-756-3 ($3500)... there is a market for these radios.

And there are some, like me, who are tired of see the same retread scanners (the BC246T is one exception) being (re)introduced ever few years - where’s the innovation? Why do we need so many “entry level” scanners? The GRE PRO-96 with it’s V-Folders is an excellent feature, as is the flexible banks in the BC246T, but realistically these features could (and should) have been introduced many years ago!

UPMan, I hope I don’t offend you, but whoever is going your market research isn’t doing you justice - I think, if you did a realistic sample, you would find a great number would prefer a top end scanner - and there are some very valid suggestions that have been made on this board that can be incorporated into the next generation of scanners, but when it comes to Uniden and GRE it feels like these suggestions are falling on deaf ears.

 

[AZScanner]

In addition to 4 receivers, it would have to have either 1 CPU that is 4 times more powerful or 4 CPUs to keep up with the control channel on each system.

I'm guessing we could make such a product for a retail around $2500. Any takers?

I know several news organizations that would love to own such a beast - money is no object with them.

-AZ

 

[stlscanner]

Also, look at the number of hobbyist using commercial Motorola radios as scanners... when you get done with chargers and programming software/interfaces you can easily have over $3,500 invested. Why do you think someone would go this route when scanners are available (and can do more!) for under $600 bucks? As was mentioned earlier, sometimes cost does not matter. When you down to it, quality is what really counts!

If GRE or Uniden isn’t interested in making a high-end scanner, maybe we can convince AOR or Icom? AOR already has a P25 decoder on the market. Anyone have any inside contacts with either of these manufactures?


Good luck!

Tony Haukap
more SCANNER stuff - http://www.cyberspace.org/~awh/main.html
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[kikito]

but when it comes to Uniden and GRE it feels like these suggestions are falling on deaf ears.

I think in at least the past 2 years, GRE and Uniden have both been listening a lot more and have been playing an active roll in the scanning community. In my opinion, it's good start and it seems to be working out for them and us. Hey, it's start!....