Can anyone tell me just how the LMPD and LMEMS unit number systems are set up and what they mean?
LMPD And LMEMS Unit Number Systems
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BigDog-911
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Are you talking about detail numbers or regular unit numbers?
Officers on the radio utilizing the numeric sequence between 100-1900 are either officers or support personnel
100-199 are assigned to 1st Division
200-299 are assigned to 2nd
300-399 3rd Div
400-499 4th
and so on until you reach the 900's
900-999 are Detectives and support personnel. ie: Homicide, Robbery, ETU, Burglary, all of your CID Detectives
There are no car numbers between 1000-1099 due to 10 codes.
1100-1199 are traffic officers and civilian Traffic Control units
1200-1299 are assigned to Crimes Against Childrens Unit
1300-1399 are used for Narcotics and Vice
1400-1499 are Probation and Parole
1500-1599 I can't remember what they are
1600-1699 I think are chaplains
1700-1799 are Radio Shop personnel
Below 100's in single and double digits are Command or Command support personnel
I hope this helps...
The med units are a little different and I don't remember all of what they tried to do with them. Maybe OFD8001 or Lee can shed some light on this.
Later Doug
Officers on the radio utilizing the numeric sequence between 100-1900 are either officers or support personnel
100-199 are assigned to 1st Division
200-299 are assigned to 2nd
300-399 3rd Div
400-499 4th
and so on until you reach the 900's
900-999 are Detectives and support personnel. ie: Homicide, Robbery, ETU, Burglary, all of your CID Detectives
There are no car numbers between 1000-1099 due to 10 codes.
1100-1199 are traffic officers and civilian Traffic Control units
1200-1299 are assigned to Crimes Against Childrens Unit
1300-1399 are used for Narcotics and Vice
1400-1499 are Probation and Parole
1500-1599 I can't remember what they are
1600-1699 I think are chaplains
1700-1799 are Radio Shop personnel
Below 100's in single and double digits are Command or Command support personnel
I hope this helps...
The med units are a little different and I don't remember all of what they tried to do with them. Maybe OFD8001 or Lee can shed some light on this.
Later Doug
jcpd9720
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LMEMS...
Single digits are command staff.
30-series are captains, usually assigned to organizing staffing, but also fill in for the street sup's
40 and 50-series are the street sup's.
m.d.1-m.d.4 are the medical directors.
car 900-969 are the fly cars that have assigned numbers.
car 970-999 are the fly cars where medics are just filling in spots. they are not permanently assigned numbers.
Medic 100-199 are ALS units that are assigned based on location. (If you want to, at a later time, I will provide those locations!)
Medic 200-299 are BLS units that are assigned based on location. (Same last 2 numbers for location as the ALS units)
In addition, the 2nd number on ALS and BLS ambulances (not fly cars) reflects which division the unit is assigned to. 111 is division 1... 121 is division 2... and so on. There are 6 divisions, so you do the math.
Example: Medic 121 and Medic 221 both ride out of Okolona Station 1 at Preston and Trio, we won't have both on the schedule at the same time. That would only happen if one is going home, and the other is coming on for shift.
If we already have a 121 or 221 that is out, and are say at a hospital from a late run, and there is a 121 or 221 that is coming on for shift, we assign the new unit 121a or 221a. The CAD supports this, and prevents having a problem dispatching 2 units with the same unit number, on 2 different runs.
Hope this clears things up.
ps, Doug, you should remember this stuff! You haven't been gone that long!! Miss ya buddy ;-)
Single digits are command staff.
30-series are captains, usually assigned to organizing staffing, but also fill in for the street sup's
40 and 50-series are the street sup's.
m.d.1-m.d.4 are the medical directors.
car 900-969 are the fly cars that have assigned numbers.
car 970-999 are the fly cars where medics are just filling in spots. they are not permanently assigned numbers.
Medic 100-199 are ALS units that are assigned based on location. (If you want to, at a later time, I will provide those locations!)
Medic 200-299 are BLS units that are assigned based on location. (Same last 2 numbers for location as the ALS units)
In addition, the 2nd number on ALS and BLS ambulances (not fly cars) reflects which division the unit is assigned to. 111 is division 1... 121 is division 2... and so on. There are 6 divisions, so you do the math.
Example: Medic 121 and Medic 221 both ride out of Okolona Station 1 at Preston and Trio, we won't have both on the schedule at the same time. That would only happen if one is going home, and the other is coming on for shift.
If we already have a 121 or 221 that is out, and are say at a hospital from a late run, and there is a 121 or 221 that is coming on for shift, we assign the new unit 121a or 221a. The CAD supports this, and prevents having a problem dispatching 2 units with the same unit number, on 2 different runs.
Hope this clears things up.
ps, Doug, you should remember this stuff! You haven't been gone that long!! Miss ya buddy ;-)
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This is somewhat off topic, but I see a new listing in Jefferson County for a Channel 8.
The FCC listing says the APPLICANT IS ENGAGED IN THE OPERATIONS OF THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR THE CITY OF WEST BUECHEL.
Has this been verified as a new police channel?
AL
The FCC listing says the APPLICANT IS ENGAGED IN THE OPERATIONS OF THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR THE CITY OF WEST BUECHEL.
Has this been verified as a new police channel?
AL
BigDog-911
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What is the frequency? LMPD is providing patrol for West Buechel but they are not operating on a seperate channel as far as I know.
Disregard, I looked at the new listing that was added. That is a simplex channel that the Urban side has had for a while.
It is kind of like the vhf LMPD Suburban F-4.
Disregard, I looked at the new listing that was added. That is a simplex channel that the Urban side has had for a while.
It is kind of like the vhf LMPD Suburban F-4.
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Doug - I take it you've gone somewhere? If so, that's news to me. If so, best wishes - you was one of the great ones!
On the LMPD unit numbers, you may hear "X-ray" preceding a number, meaning that officer is techically off-duty. You may also hear alpha characters, such as 735-A. Those alpha characters are for multiple cars on a given beat. For example, 7 is the district, 3 is the platoon (or shift in this case mid watch) and the 5 is beat 5. A is the first car on that beat, B is the second, etc.
Also, on the unit numbers, that's for "regular" operations. During the Derby related stuff they use something different for those working the Derby details. Those are identified by an alpha character as the first part of the numbers.
On the LMPD unit numbers, you may hear "X-ray" preceding a number, meaning that officer is techically off-duty. You may also hear alpha characters, such as 735-A. Those alpha characters are for multiple cars on a given beat. For example, 7 is the district, 3 is the platoon (or shift in this case mid watch) and the 5 is beat 5. A is the first car on that beat, B is the second, etc.
Also, on the unit numbers, that's for "regular" operations. During the Derby related stuff they use something different for those working the Derby details. Those are identified by an alpha character as the first part of the numbers.
BigDog-911
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ofd8001 said:
Thanks Chief I appreciate that. I have got to the east side of the county to a little police department that is in the same jurisdiction as 3301. I left in December and absolutely love it. Went to a place that respects the employees as individuals and not as a semi-warm body in a seat. Things are going well and the new Chief is a great guy to work for.
Email is the same. Feel free to drop me a line if you want.
Have a good one.
Doug
Thanks for all the info guys.
Hay KF4KTJ in the 1100-1700 LMPD numbers does the last two digits mean platoon and beat or do they mean something else?
Hay KF4KTJ in the 1100-1700 LMPD numbers does the last two digits mean platoon and beat or do they mean something else?
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BigDog-911
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Bluegrass1dcr1 said:
No, the last 2 digits for the most part dont mean anything. Other than in the 1100 series which is traffic. The 3rd number is the shift but not in the normal hours. 1120 is day work Sgt and 1130 is Midwatch.
jcpd9720
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On 11xx numbers the 3rd number is shift, and traffic has 4 shifts... 116x is a civilian traffic control officer, and in all police numbers, if the last number is a 0 or 9, it is the sergeant (or other command officer), and a 7 means acting sergeant. Just a little extra food for thought!
Thanks 9720, by the way do you know what the LMPD 1500 series units are? KF4KTJ couldn't remember what they were.
BigDog-911
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After thinking back, 1500 #'s are training.
Thanks.
jcpd9720
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uhh... they are all kinds of units...
some are planning (basically the map people for the dept, they actually work closely with MetroSafe to get units into computer, get us any info we need, and plan thunder-derby-etc)
Some are detectives from another unit, but I can't certify that. (if someone calls me on the radio, and they sound professional, I just assume they are the police!!!)
some are planning (basically the map people for the dept, they actually work closely with MetroSafe to get units into computer, get us any info we need, and plan thunder-derby-etc)
Some are detectives from another unit, but I can't certify that. (if someone calls me on the radio, and they sound professional, I just assume they are the police!!!)
Thanks again 9720, If anybody else has info please let me know.
Okay so I am reading through this thread and I don't really understand this stuff. Can anybody possibly give me a more clear explanation than before and possibly in a little more detail?
Is probably reasonably accurate for LMPD. It's a little complicated, but the more you listen, the clearer it becomes. I'm sure the following is probably confusing too, but I'll try.
For numbers between 100 and 900:
x01 to x09 are the majors and lieutenants for the district.
xx9 is a sergeant.
Anything above x50 is either a district traffic car (radar cars) or district detective.
Other cars are beat officers. For example, 711-A is a patrol officer in the 7th division on first platoon riding beat 1. 711-B is another patrol officer in the 7th division on first platoon riding beat 1.
Cars with "X-ray" are off duty cars.
LMPD has recently jumbled up their scheduling and added a 9th division. I wouldn't be too surprised if they revamp their number system.
LMEMS has just gone through a re-organization and some numbers have been changed there too. I haven't paid much attention to them to get a feel for the current system. Plus all we hear is the one talkgroup patched to the old Med 10, so half of the traffic isn't heard.
Oh god please not adding another division and reshuffling LMEMS numbers. Where is the 9th division giving to be located? And is it possible for someone to set up a new scanner for LMEMS so we can hear all LMEMS communications?
That "new" LMPD division is the re-configured VIPER unit. It is called the "9th Mobile Division". They don't have a given area - conceptually they can go most anywhere, but stick to the higher crime areas as a matter of course. I suspect they are using 1900 series numbers, which is a little "out of whack" with respect to their other unit numbers.
We're pretty much out of luck on LMEMS. All of their MetroSafe talkgroups/channels are encrypted with ADP encryption. Their Channel 1 talkgroup is patched to the old Med 10 UHF frequency, so you can hear a fraction of their transmissions.
We're pretty much out of luck on LMEMS. All of their MetroSafe talkgroups/channels are encrypted with ADP encryption. Their Channel 1 talkgroup is patched to the old Med 10 UHF frequency, so you can hear a fraction of their transmissions.
It's interesting (at least to me) that EMS encrypts their radio traffic, while police and fire don't.
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