LMRN Technical Data Discussion

[mciupa]

Cool, since you have confirmation of the signals, I'll add them. Get some rest!

 

[ve3tej]

Site 11 Port Stanley now shows neighbour sites of

16 Chatham 142.320
18 London 142.905
19 Wardsville 143.07
22 Aylmer 142.965

 

[Forts]

I just updated that in the database about a half hour ago, along with a few other sites. Looks like the network is starting to come together now.

 

[Enjoi19]

Little more checking from a nice spot today...

Whitby is now showing neighbours: 26, 13, 38

Pontypool is online as site 38 with 142.17, 142.59. Neighbours: 26 and 37.

Fonthill is showing these neighbours now as well: 9, 11, 13, 32, 46

Skylon Tower has a secondary of 142.095 as well. Neighbours: 9, 15, 37, 46.

Britannia is showing neighbours: 11, 13, 32, 46

 

[simcoescan]

I got this on the Edgar tower in Simcoe County:

Activity Summary - Decoder: P25 Phase 1 Normal (C4FM)

Network
WACN:BEE00[781824] SYSTEM:AD9[2777] NAC:AD1[2769] LRA:00[0]

Current Site
SYSTEM:AD9[2777] NAC:AD1[2769] RFSS:01[1] SITE:29[41] LRA:00[0] STATUS:ACTIVE RFSS NETWORK CONNECTION
PRI CONTROL CHANNEL:0-866 DOWNLINK:142500000 UPLINK:138480000
SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:0-928 DOWNLINK:142965000 UPLINK:138945000
STATION ID/LICENSE:

Neighbor Sites
SYSTEM:AD9[2777] NAC:AD1[2769] RFSS:01[1] SITE:1A[26] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-886 DOWNLINK:142650000 UPLINK:138630000 STATUS:[FAILURE CONDITION, VALID INFORMATION]
SYSTEM:AD9[2777] NAC:AD1[2769] RFSS:01[1] SITE:22[34] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-848 DOWNLINK:142365000 UPLINK:138345000 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:AD9[2777] NAC:AD1[2769] RFSS:01[1] SITE:2A[42] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-912 DOWNLINK:142845000 UPLINK:138825000 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]

Frequency Bands
BAND:0 FDMA BASE:136005000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:7500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-4020000
BAND:1 TDMA BASE:136005000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:7500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-4020000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:2 FDMA BASE:136005000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:7500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-4050000
BAND:3 TDMA BASE:136005000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:7500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-4050000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:4 FDMA BASE:136005000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:7500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-2235000
BAND:5 TDMA BASE:136005000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:7500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-2235000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:6 FDMA BASE:136005000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:7500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-2145000
BAND:7 TDMA BASE:136005000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:7500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-2145000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:12 FDMA BASE:769000000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000
BAND:13 TDMA BASE:769000000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:14 FDMA BASE:851062500 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-45000000
BAND:15 TDMA BASE:851062500 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-45000000 TIMESLOTS:2

 

[ve3tej]

Site 21 Woodstock show neighbours
3 142.050
18 142.905
22 142.965
23 142.590
45 142.725

Site 45 show neighbours
4 142.230 Listowel
18 142.905 London
21 142.530 Woodstock
25 142.500 Goderich
27 141.705 Ipperwash
36 142.350 Wingham

 

[gary123]

I have updated the LMRN LCN Calulator.

The changes include
- better legitimate LMRN frequency checking.
- the addition of a calculator that displays the DSD type channel number for each frequency.
- removal of unused test code
- the inclusion of a version number in the main window.

As always use at your own risk. This is v2.0.0.0 enjoy.

 

[Thunderbolt]

Site 17 Essex, is showing the following information as of right now. Site 147 is new, and the control channel is now back on 142.665 MHz.

System ID : AD9
System Name : Land Mobile Radio Network (LMRN)
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-17
Tower Number (Hex) : T0111
Tower Description : Essex
Control Capabilities : Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Wed May 10 08:22:55 2023

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,136.00500,0.00750,-4.02000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
01,136.00500,0.00750,-4.02000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
02,136.00500,0.00750,-4.05000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
03,136.00500,0.00750,-4.05000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
04,136.00500,0.00750,-2.23500,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,136.00500,0.00750,-2.23500,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
06,136.00500,0.00750,-2.14500,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,136.00500,0.00750,-2.14500,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
12,769.00000,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
13,769.00000,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
14,851.06250,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
15,851.06250,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"00-0888","c",142.66500,"00-0888",138.64500,0,0
"00-0920","a",142.90500,"00-0920",138.88500,0,0

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
114,"T010E",ad9,"00-0814",142.11000,"Wallaceburg"
116,"T0110",ad9,"00-0842",142.32000,"Chatham"
120,"T0114",ad9,"00-0834",142.26000,"Windsor"
147,"T012F",ad9,"00-0896",142.72500,""

73's

Ron

 

[32dave]

Lots of traffic on Oxford today all encrypted

 

[EJB]

I have 0AD9H-0113

142.950 . That's Niagara's tower: Skylon.

Very strong here tonight as I type @ 2150 on Thursday, May 11.

 

[icarus1963]

Brantford tower reappeared today. Using 142.590 as CC and 142.395 as scc

 

[gary123]

Went hunting. Site 45 is near Munro south of Mitchell.

Google Maps

Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.

www.google.ca

Site 33 is outside of Tavistock. Note: the site currently is not active but its verifed from earlier.

Google Maps

Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.

www.google.ca

GPS 43.32638 - 80.85451

 

[phyberoptics]

Site 6 is now up on 142.950, this is Primrose, with a current NL of
1.26 142.650 Sunderland
1.44 142.800 (Unknown)

 

[gary123]

Site 33 Tavistock is up on 142.140 CC and 142.830 scc
1.3 142.050 Cedarwoods
1.4 142.230 Listowel
1.18 142.905 London
1.21 142.530 Woodstock
1.23 142.590 Brantford
1.45 142.725 Munro

Site 4 verified data from CC 142.230 CC and 142.420 scc
1.3 142.050 Cedarwoods
1.8 142.110 Durham
1.25 142.500 Goderich
1.33 142.140 Tavistock
1.44 142.800
1.45 142.725 Munro

Site 21 verified data from CC 142.530 CC and 142.260 scc
1.3 142.050 Cedarwoods
1.18 142.905 London
1.22 142.965 Aylmer
1.23 142.590 Brantford
1.32 142.440 Simcoe
1.33 142.140 Tavistock
1.45 142.725 Munro

site 45 verified data from CC 172.725 and 142.965 scc
1.4 142.230 Listowell
1.18 142.905 London
1.21 142.530 Woodstock
1.25 142.500 Goderich
1.27 141.705 Ipperwash
1.33 142.140 Tavistock
1.36 142.350 Wingham

 

[EJB]

Lots of traffic on Oxford today all encryptedView attachment 141525

WOL tower has,been stronger the last few days. Stronger than Brantford's. With a metal extendible antenna, nothing special I could decode the FleetNet stuff in Hamilton on my 325

Do they increase the power as the towers become more organized?

 

[Muxlow]

Site 47 Leamington 142.725 (currently offline) but shows as a neighbor to site 17 and 16

 

[gary123]

@EJB: I have noticed when a site is turned on it is blasting out a signal, then a few days later it drops down to something more localized as it is integrated into the network. My thought on this is that LMRN is going to be configured for more sites each covering a smaller area. Mobiles will roam from site to site more frequently as a result. This seems to be accurate as many of the sites have 5 or 6 neighbors. I have also started to notice that frequencies are reused a lot more on different sites.

 

[Muxlow]

Site 8 Durham CC142.1100 142.5900 NAC AD8
neighbors
4 Listowel 142.23
28 Kincardine 142.71
29 Owen Sound 142.095
34 Kimberly142.365
36 Wingham 142.35
44 142.80

 

[VA3DBJ]

Registration traffic on the Whitby tower this morning.

 

[EJB]

If it matters I am able to receive site 112 decently with a decent mag mounted antenna on 142.410 here in Hamilton.

I'm getting 142.800 perfectly with a run of the mill antenna , site 107. Actually I can pick it up without an antenna here downtown Hammer.

I'm guessing 142.8 is Charlton, not exactly sure 142.410 but it'd close enough by for this scanner to "hear" it.

E

1(07) is Charlton),
1(12) has gotta be Woodlawn