I have been known to do a drive around to locate sites. One helpful thing is if it's a tower and not on a building, the sites look very similar. Mike makes a great point using the neighbor list will often help in deciding which way to go hunting.
LMRN Technical Data Discussion
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Some talkgroups I've never seen before have recently shown up:
P25, BEE00.AD9, 10000, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/07/30 14:15, ""
P25, BEE00.AD9, 12000, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/07/24 8:41, ""
P25, BEE00.AD9, 48867, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/07/20 10:08, ""
P25, BEE00.AD9, 10000, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/07/30 14:15, ""
P25, BEE00.AD9, 12000, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/07/24 8:41, ""
P25, BEE00.AD9, 48867, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/07/20 10:08, ""
10000 would be an Ontario Parks or MNRF group.
48867 is an interesting one. Ive seen that talk group on multiple over systems (Peel, Toronto, York). I'm wondering if it's a supergroup or patch for interop purposes?
I have see 48096 (RID 230111) and 48864 (RID 221644 249456 478835 5525104 (bad decode?) on the Hamilton site.
Matt
Matt
Matt I am not sure. My experience is that a single RID or a small group of them is usually a linked radio or a set of linked radios to a specific TG. This TG is then patched to something.
So far I have not been able to corollate the RIDs to any of the RID groupings such as MTO. I have seen single RID/TG pairs in the 2131xx. MTO Dispatch are at 2139xx. The rest if the rids are all over the 2xxxxx area.
So far I have not been able to corollate the RIDs to any of the RID groupings such as MTO. I have seen single RID/TG pairs in the 2131xx. MTO Dispatch are at 2139xx. The rest if the rids are all over the 2xxxxx area.
Hmm I will have to check my DSD+ radio file and see if there any more oddities like that showed up in the logs.
Matt
Site NAC's are changing. Site 9 is ADA, Site 13 is ADD, Site 15 is ADF.
The first 15 sites will have NAC 1-9,A,B,C,D,E,F. The remaining sites will have the AD + the last number of the site ID IE site 45 will have a NAC of AD5. I enter the correct NAC on the uniden scanners in the general tab of the site list.
Here is a DSD fastlane capture for Zone 2. It was made going up north of Barrie.
Site: 1.51 NAC=AD1 ; COBOURG
Channel 0-858: 142.44 CC
Site: 1.54
Channel 0-866: 142.5 CC
Site: 1.59 ; HALIBURTON
Channel 0-850: 142.38 CC
Site: 1.63 NAC=AD0 ; SOUTH_RIVER
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.54
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.75
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.78
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.84
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-2.47
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-2.48
Channel 0-830: 142.23 SCC
Channel 0-880: 142.605 CC
Site: 1.72
Channel 0-926: 142.95 CC
Site: 1.73 ; BRACEBRIDGE
Channel 0-896: 142.725 CC
Site: 1.75 NAC=ADC ; BURKS FALLS
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.63
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.72
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.73
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.78
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.84
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.92
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.147 ; 147_TEMP_SITE
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-2.47
Channel 0-818: 142.14 SCC
Channel 0-878: 142.59 CC
Site: 1.78 NAC=ADE ; HILLSIDE
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.59
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.63
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.73
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.75
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.79
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.84
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.89
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.92
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.147 ; 147_TEMP_SITE
Channel 0-834: 142.26 CC
Channel 0-888: 142.665 SCC
Site: 1.79
Channel 0-906: 142.8 CC
Site: 1.84 ; PARRY_SOUND
Channel 0-842: 142.32 CC
Site: 1.89 ; MINDEN
Channel 0-894: 142.71 CC
Site: 1.92
Channel 0-822: 142.17 CC
Site: 1.147 NAC=AD7 ; 147_TEMP_SITE
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.5 ; BALLINAFAD (Erin)
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.6 ; PRIMROSE (Dufferin)
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.7 ; HAMILTON
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.9 ; MISSISSAUGA
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.13 ; NIAGARA FALLS
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.15 ; FONTHILL
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.37 ; WHITBY
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.39 ; KING CITY
Channel 1-1628: 142.11-1 VOICE
Channel 1-1629: 142.11-2 VOICE
Channel 0-822: 142.17 CC
Channel 1-1652: 142.2-1 VOICE
Channel 1-1653: 142.2-2 VOICE
Channel 1-1764: 142.62-1 VOICE
Channel 1-1765: 142.62-2 VOICE
Channel 0-890: 142.68 CC SCC
Channel 0-920: 142.905 CC SCC
Channel 1-2032: 143.625-1 VOICE
Channel 1-2033: 143.625-2 VOICE
Site: 2.47 NAC=AD8
Channel 0-928: 142.965 CC
Site: 2.48 NAC=AD8
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.63
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-2.47
Channel 0-832: 142.245 SCC
Channel 0-856: 142.425 CC
Site: 1.51 NAC=AD1 ; COBOURG
Channel 0-858: 142.44 CC
Site: 1.54
Channel 0-866: 142.5 CC
Site: 1.59 ; HALIBURTON
Channel 0-850: 142.38 CC
Site: 1.63 NAC=AD0 ; SOUTH_RIVER
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.54
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.75
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.78
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.84
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-2.47
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-2.48
Channel 0-830: 142.23 SCC
Channel 0-880: 142.605 CC
Site: 1.72
Channel 0-926: 142.95 CC
Site: 1.73 ; BRACEBRIDGE
Channel 0-896: 142.725 CC
Site: 1.75 NAC=ADC ; BURKS FALLS
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.63
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.72
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.73
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.78
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.84
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.92
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.147 ; 147_TEMP_SITE
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-2.47
Channel 0-818: 142.14 SCC
Channel 0-878: 142.59 CC
Site: 1.78 NAC=ADE ; HILLSIDE
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.59
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.63
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.73
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.75
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.79
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.84
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.89
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.92
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.147 ; 147_TEMP_SITE
Channel 0-834: 142.26 CC
Channel 0-888: 142.665 SCC
Site: 1.79
Channel 0-906: 142.8 CC
Site: 1.84 ; PARRY_SOUND
Channel 0-842: 142.32 CC
Site: 1.89 ; MINDEN
Channel 0-894: 142.71 CC
Site: 1.92
Channel 0-822: 142.17 CC
Site: 1.147 NAC=AD7 ; 147_TEMP_SITE
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.5 ; BALLINAFAD (Erin)
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.6 ; PRIMROSE (Dufferin)
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.7 ; HAMILTON
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.9 ; MISSISSAUGA
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.13 ; NIAGARA FALLS
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.15 ; FONTHILL
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.37 ; WHITBY
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.39 ; KING CITY
Channel 1-1628: 142.11-1 VOICE
Channel 1-1629: 142.11-2 VOICE
Channel 0-822: 142.17 CC
Channel 1-1652: 142.2-1 VOICE
Channel 1-1653: 142.2-2 VOICE
Channel 1-1764: 142.62-1 VOICE
Channel 1-1765: 142.62-2 VOICE
Channel 0-890: 142.68 CC SCC
Channel 0-920: 142.905 CC SCC
Channel 1-2032: 143.625-1 VOICE
Channel 1-2033: 143.625-2 VOICE
Site: 2.47 NAC=AD8
Channel 0-928: 142.965 CC
Site: 2.48 NAC=AD8
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-1.63
Neighbor: BEE00.AD9-2.47
Channel 0-832: 142.245 SCC
Channel 0-856: 142.425 CC
Managed to snag a talk group off of Queen's Park tower which is rare for me in NW Toronto. Falls within the BMR tech range, but not sure what that Radio ID coincides with.
Notice they are using Band Plan 12 (shows as Band Plan 13 on RadioReference's P25 ID table in the database)
As of 3:25pm all of these hits
P25, BEE00.AD9, 989, 50, Normal, 84, 2025/09/22 15:25, ""
These are the radio's that have used talk group 989
P25, BEE00.AD9, 989, 1005, 50, Normal, 13, 2025/09/22 15:34, "", "CC1 OP05", 7608938D
P25, BEE00.AD9, 989, 790288, 50, Normal, 7, 2025/09/22 15:31, ""
Also, 19490 is now being used
P25, BEE00.AD9, 19490, 50, Normal, 190, 2025/09/22 15:07, "OPP Queens Park"
Notice they are using Band Plan 12 (shows as Band Plan 13 on RadioReference's P25 ID table in the database)
As of 3:25pm all of these hits
P25, BEE00.AD9, 989, 50, Normal, 84, 2025/09/22 15:25, ""
These are the radio's that have used talk group 989
P25, BEE00.AD9, 989, 1005, 50, Normal, 13, 2025/09/22 15:34, "", "CC1 OP05", 7608938D
P25, BEE00.AD9, 989, 790288, 50, Normal, 7, 2025/09/22 15:31, ""
Also, 19490 is now being used
P25, BEE00.AD9, 19490, 50, Normal, 190, 2025/09/22 15:07, "OPP Queens Park"
I have these RIDs listed in the 1xxx range. So far I have not Identified the exact user.
1002 CC1 OP02
1004 CC1 OP04
1005 CC1 OP05
1006 CC2 OP06
1007 CC1 OP07
1008 CC1 OP08
Did you capture the KID used for TG989? this may help us eventually figure out what department or section is using the radios.
1002 CC1 OP02
1004 CC1 OP04
1005 CC1 OP05
1006 CC2 OP06
1007 CC1 OP07
1008 CC1 OP08
Did you capture the KID used for TG989? this may help us eventually figure out what department or section is using the radios.
Just poured over the P25 Event folder for yesterday, no Key ID whatsoever.
Sometimes I miss the KID as well especially if the signal is noisy or it fails to track properly to the voice frequency. We do know its AES from the 84 you highlighted. I have no info on who TG 989 is yet. Research continues.
Evening guys,
Just wanted to contribute to the conversation with my discovery tonight. Had one radio showing up with odd activity. I’m in the Pond Mills and Commissioners area of London
2025/09/23 20:17:57 Freq=142.665000 NAC=AD8 Registration; RID=200494 ACCEPT
2025/09/23 20:17:57 Freq=142.665000 NAC=AD8 Affiliation; RID=200494 DENY
And it was doing this repeatedly
Just wanted to contribute to the conversation with my discovery tonight. Had one radio showing up with odd activity. I’m in the Pond Mills and Commissioners area of London
2025/09/23 20:17:57 Freq=142.665000 NAC=AD8 Registration; RID=200494 ACCEPT
2025/09/23 20:17:57 Freq=142.665000 NAC=AD8 Affiliation; RID=200494 DENY
And it was doing this repeatedly
Looks like an MTO unit down in Patrol 11 area, considering your location.
I stumbled across this one tonight, AH-NIA-GNG on TG 23141. I figured it was maybe Grimsby hospital. After a couple of Google Searches I was able to determine that its Niagara Falls Hospital (formally. Greater Niagara Falls Hospital). Guess the MOH techs like sticking to the old school names. lol
This control channel seems to be coming in again today. If anyone is able to capture any info on it.
Mt. St. Patrick FleetNet 142.650 I have at much lower power right now.
