MD 380 encryption

[IdleMonitor]

I hope you guys might be able to help me out.

One of the places I work uses the MD380's for regular analog usage and regular digital with no worries, but I was asked if the encryption feature (scrambling as per description) can also be scanned/heard using I'm assuming one of the newer types of scanners.

They like using these radios as they work great for what we need them for but they are looking at transmitting some sensitive information if need be but wanted to make sure that the general public wouldn't be able to monitor it.

I did let them know that the regular DMR usage could be heard (but really only to those with the newer scanners and latest updates) which is still likely highly doubtful anyways given what we use the radios for and the location that it's being used.

 

[Forts]

If they use encryption of any sort it cannot be decoded by the newest scanner DMR releases or DSDPlus.

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[jaspence]

It is illegal to decode encryption regardless of the type of digital service, including DMR, P25, NXDN, etc., so no scanner available to the public can have that ability.

 

[VE3RADIO]

I hope you guys might be able to help me out.

One of the places I work uses the MD380's for regular analog usage and regular digital with no worries, but I was asked if the encryption feature (scrambling as per description) can also be scanned/heard using I'm assuming one of the newer types of scanners.

They like using these radios as they work great for what we need them for but they are looking at transmitting some sensitive information if need be but wanted to make sure that the general public wouldn't be able to monitor it.

I did let them know that the regular DMR usage could be heard (but really only to those with the newer scanners and latest updates) which is still likely highly doubtful anyways given what we use the radios for and the location that it's being used.

You must work at the smith falls pot factory.. where they make medical marijuana.. lol

Just a guess based on your location of eastern ontario.. I know they opened up some massive grow op in the old hershey factory.. I suspect they want privacy.

 

[IdleMonitor]

Lol no not there.

 

[IdleMonitor]

The reason I say encryption is because apparently thats what it says on the radio. I don't know. I haven't used them myself. But a description on a website states scrambling of some sort.

I work at a race track and control tower talks to rescue. We normally use just regular CP200's but if there's a major incident and critical patient info that needs to be communicated then Atleast they have the other radios to relay that info to the tower without prying ears listening.

 

[IdleMonitor]

If they use encryption of any sort it cannot be decoded by the newest scanner DMR releases or DSDPlus.

Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

So they should be fine then using that feature then in these radios without worry.

Digital Encryption/scrambling type feature.

 

[exkalibur]

It is illegal to decode encryption regardless of the type of digital service, including DMR, P25, NXDN, etc., so no scanner available to the public can have that ability.

Hopefully you can provide a source for that? There's nothing in the Radiocommunications Act that makes decryption illegal.

 

[mikewazowski]

I think he doesn't realize what forum he's in.

 

[RayAir]

With the 380 I've noticed a few things. If one is set to enhanced privacy and you hit it with basic privacy, the radio loses its enhanced key and you have to reprogram.

The 128 bit enhanced is actually only 49 bits.
And after you make your key, check it on another DMR radio because I found some keys don't scramble up the bits enough and you can sort of make out what is being said.

Interestingly, the basic privacy doesn't have these problems.