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Question... has anyone actually plotted out the co-ordinates of the TFR for DCA on a map with decent scaling and detail?

There are some really small maps with (what I assume is) them, but it's like trying to read a postage stamp.

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RCH122 07-7187 AE20C8 C-17 back in CHS after a late night run from CHS-WRI-MUGM-CHS with equipment for the Silver Bullet, RCH3280 09-9212 AE49C8 getting ready to depart ADW to a yet unknown destination with the Silver Bullet. Most likely for Sec'y Defense trip to Guantanamo Bay to make up for the postponed visit from last week.
RCH-3280 C-17 #09-9212 showing ADW-MUGM again this morning on Acars. Sounds like for Sec Def flight today.

Show an AR-20 NE A/R Res later this afternoon 2100z 4PM local to 2359z FL-150 to 270.
See what shows up.
 
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BLUE-91 this morning KC-135 #59-1505 from Tn ANG working racetrack over Texarkana.
Acars has BLUE-91 returning to Tenn when all done..
That is NE of Fort Worth so maybe some new F-35's?
BLUE-91 finally has gathered its receivers and is heading Northeast FL-250 assume to New England area.
Must be just dropping them off for now up in the Northeast.
 
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0800- Looks like Falcon Virgo exercise getting ready. Couple of Civil Air Patrol Cessna 182 (CAP 1866 & 1893) aloft in the PAX areas & working Bay Watch (119.275).
They had exercise late last night also as Cosmic-01 flight of two came West from A/C around 0005 local
and did rtb A/C at 0135 local. Cosmic said they were heading to the Guard Dog Cap.
Checking replay where were two CAP #### Cessnas also circling DC area.
 

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Md ANG A-10's COLT-1 flight up A/A 293.300 and with Dover apch 257.875 assume headed for A/C range.

BLUE-91 seems to have changed course towards ACK Nantucket but now circling.. goofy.
BLUE-91 looks like they cut their receivers loose.
BLUE-92 calls in and says will be descending to FL-270 for RETRO's. RETRO-41 is flight of 3 F-35's.
Judging by BLUE-92 course seems all now headed for Lajes.
 
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BLUE-91 seems to have changed course towards ACK Nantucket but now back NE bound.
Sounds like RETRO 41 has split and is up on ZBW separately, either 277.400 or 370.900, presumably to join up with BLUE 92.

1027 EST- RETRO 41 to ZBW 290.30/128.75 BLUE 92 also on frequency. ATC confirmed RETRO 41 as 3 F-35s.
1030 EST- RETRO 41 MARSA with BLUE 92
1044 EST- BLUE 92 to ZNY 125.925, cleared direct DOVEY eta 1553Z, cleared Coronet East 047 at FL250/FL270.
1048 EST- Radar Service Terminated to 129.900 NY ARINC
1049 EST- 129.900 assigned HF 8825 primary 11309 secondary
 
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Sounds like RETRO 41 has split and is up on ZBW separately, either 277.400 or 370.900, presumably to join up with BLUE 92.

1027 EST- RETRO 41 to ZBW 290.30/128.75 BLUE 92 also on frequency. ATC confirmed RETRO 41 as 3 F-35s.
1030 EST- RETRO 41 MARSA with BLUE 92
Nice work guys.. Last heard push ZNY 125.925 or ZNY 284.750.. BLUE 92 confirmed 3 F-35 alphas.
Prob get their clearance to Lajes next.. Seems BLUE-92 was a bit late and BLUE-91 was gonna drop them
off at Pease but then turned SE towards ACK. :)
 

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I have a question about the Air Refueling Track (Burner) what is the location of that? I have been unable to see that on the charts or SUA chart. Is that a charted area or out to sea somewhere?
 
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I have a question about the Air Refueling Track (Burner) what is the location of that?

The Burner ATCAA overlies a portion of Cherry Point’s airspace from FL180 to and including FL230. The upper altitude may be increased to FL290 through coordination with Washington Center.

I've heard them use 266.400, 310.100, 364.350 in there. Anyone know of anymore ?

Burner ATCAA.png
 
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OK great thank you it's an ARTCC that explains it.

ATCAA. If you select the "Air Traffic Control Assigned Airspaces" box on the SUA website in the "Map Layers" tab (to the right) it will show up. It's not a default so you have to check it manually.

FAA SUA Website

The BURNER ATCAA shows active today from 1600 EST to 1745 EST and again from 1830 EST to 2030 EST.

Under the Map Layers tab if you select "ALL SAA" and "ALL MTR/AR" and altitude boxes "FL290-<FL350" and "FL350-FL999" you won't miss anything.
 
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