This is more of a streaming question as I have not yet invested in a digital scanner for myself, but I increasingly notice a growing amount of missed traffic on the streams for Monroe County Fire, particularly fire calls where the dispatch call is missing, but responding units are heard. This is true for both the feeds hosted here and the OpenMHz P25 feed. Is this a reception problem or encoding issue? Anyone take a guess.
Missing Call Traffic in Rochester?
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Not sure how Monroe County fire does all their communications but if your only hearing responding units and not dispatch then its pretty clear the owner of the stream does not have that channel in their scanner. Not much you can do other than try reaching out to the feed provider.
If its this stream, you can click Report a Problem or since the provider included an email, try sending him something.
If its this stream the only option is to click report and choose other in the dropdown and describe the issue. Note that not all feed providers check their mail.
If its this stream, you can click Report a Problem or since the provider included an email, try sending him something.
If its this stream the only option is to click report and choose other in the dropdown and describe the issue. Note that not all feed providers check their mail.
Monroe County Dispatch is TG 1811 and Response is TGs 1806/1807 East and 1808/1809 West. Rochester FD is TG 1704 and response TG1072 primary and TG 1073 secondary. Be sure you have selected the Dispatch TGs to listen to. I see the OpenMHz still has everything lsited with the old VHF channel designations so it is not clear what TGs are actually monitored.
The broadcastify feed could also be having the same issues the Philadelphia feed provider is having by using a non simulcast capable scanner to pick up the feed. So they're having simulcast distortion issues such as missed transmissions.
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If I were to venture a guess, if the scanner feed is "Monroe and Ontario," it's likely that the receiver is using an Ontario cell. As of recently, 1811 (dispatch) has not been needed in the Ontario North cell, so a scanner wouldn't receive it.
Ops8 (1806) has been seen in the Ontario North cell, which is why it would make sense the feed hears some traffic, but not all.
Ops8 (1806) has been seen in the Ontario North cell, which is why it would make sense the feed hears some traffic, but not all.
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I think this might be an issue, but it was not true before. I was monitoring yesterday's calamities here in Brighton and noticed missed dispatch calls for both the accident on 590 and the conflagration at 12 Corners. Ops channels were fine but the main feed seems to be missing traffic that did not happen before. OpenMHz has been a real mess as well lately, with calls assigned to the wrong channels and repeating traffic (3-4 times). I think the receiving station is still is Webster. I will reach out to the volunteer and see if perhaps things need a refresh or reboot. I just wanted to make sure there was not a systemic reason for it I had missed.
Life is less complicated for me as I serve up the analog Rochester weather radio feed. I think I've reached 15 years of doing it, but mostly for a weather-related website that abandoned the service so I moved it over here.
Did you miss all the dispatch calls for the 12 Corners Fire? I just checked the archive for my Western Finger Lakes Fire VHF Paging feed starting at 8:50PM. This feed covers Monroe VHF CH 5 and adjacent county VHF paging channels.
Western Finger Lakes Region Fire VHF Paging Live Audio Feed
Western Finger Lakes Region Fire VHF Paging Live Audio Feed on Broadcastify.com
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There was the initial dispatch for Brighton and Pittsford followed by a working fire announcement for Brighton with RFD dispatched for RIC. Then various departments dispatched for fill in. All of this should have been on TG 1811.
Was the feed silent when these dispatches were being transmitted, or was it carrying audio from other talkgroups?
I heard a few dispatches, but not all. Sometimes tones, sometimes just the dispatch (but not both). It definitely does seem to be impacting Fire Ops channels.
Heard some, not all. I'll compare your archives and see what is different. I usually tune in when fire trucks scream past my house looking for the original dispatch call and increasingly I don't hear the initial dispatch on the digital side (streaming). It's hit or miss on OpenMHz as well, because the tags are frequently wrong.Did you miss all the dispatch calls for the 12 Corners Fire? I just checked the archive for my Western Finger Lakes Fire VHF Paging feed starting at 8:50PM. This feed covers Monroe VHF CH 5 and adjacent county VHF paging channels.
Western Finger Lakes Region Fire VHF Paging Live Audio Feed
Western Finger Lakes Region Fire VHF Paging Live Audio Feed on Broadcastify.com
There was the initial dispatch for Brighton and Pittsford followed by a working fire announcement for Brighton with RFD dispatched for RIC. Then various departments dispatched for fill in. All of this should have been on TG 1811.
I just checked the archives for Monroe and Ontario Counties Fire - Digital Live Audio Feed
The tones for that call were heard but no voice dispatch. Next activity was 3C40 and some others reporting enroute, then Pittsford base acknowledging. It is not clear from that feed's description what site(s) they are monitoring. It implies monitoring the entire system. If scanning all 5 Monroe and Ontario sites it could miss a lot. It is also questionable how they are monitoring all sites in both counties from a single location.
The tones for that call were heard but no voice dispatch. Next activity was 3C40 and some others reporting enroute, then Pittsford base acknowledging. It is not clear from that feed's description what site(s) they are monitoring. It implies monitoring the entire system. If scanning all 5 Monroe and Ontario sites it could miss a lot. It is also questionable how they are monitoring all sites in both counties from a single location.
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FOPS5 is strapped to all Monroe County Sites, so if whatever is being fed online is parked on a Monroe site, the toneout, clear tone and ECD dispatch should be heard. Openmhz sounds like its grabbing all the fire5 traffic on TG 1811.
Anyone can listen anyways still on 154.310 to the toneouts and dispatch and dont need the trunk if thats all you care about.
Anyone can listen anyways still on 154.310 to the toneouts and dispatch and dont need the trunk if thats all you care about.
If you are in the area, a scanner is better than an online feed. If you are not, then you are at the mercy of the feed operator and their equipment.
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