• To anyone looking to acquire commercial radio programming software:

    Please do not make requests for copies of radio programming software which is sold (or was sold) by the manufacturer for any monetary value. All requests will be deleted and a forum infraction issued. Making a request such as this is attempting to engage in software piracy and this forum cannot be involved or associated with this activity. The same goes for any private transaction via Private Message. Even if you attempt to engage in this activity in PM's we will still enforce the forum rules. Your PM's are not private and the administration has the right to read them if there's a hint to criminal activity.

    If you are having trouble legally obtaining software please state so. We do not want any hurt feelings when your vague post is mistaken for a free request. It is YOUR responsibility to properly word your request.

    To obtain Motorola software see the Sticky in the Motorola forum.

    The various other vendors often permit their dealers to sell the software online (i.e., Kenwood). Please use Google or some other search engine to find a dealer that sells the software. Typically each series or individual radio requires its own software package. Often the Kenwood software is less than $100 so don't be a cheapskate; just purchase it.

    For M/A Com/Harris/GE, etc: there are two software packages that program all current and past radios. One package is for conventional programming and the other for trunked programming. The trunked package is in upwards of $2,500. The conventional package is more reasonable though is still several hundred dollars. The benefit is you do not need multiple versions for each radio (unlike Motorola).

    This is a large and very visible forum. We cannot jeopardize the ability to provide the RadioReference services by allowing this activity to occur. Please respect this.

Motorola 1970's Ham radio

MTS2000des

5B2_BEE00 Czar
Joined
Jul 12, 2008
Messages
5,761
Location
Cobb County, GA Stadium Crime Zone
Motorola was not known for cheap 2-way radios. But we did stress quality. Every specification was verified. Radio prototypes were drop-tested, vibration tested, field tested, and life tested. And we tested them over the full temperature range -30C to 60C and frequency range. They had to work and survive I think 11 volts to 16 volts. For temperature testing, the radios would transmit 1 minute on, 4 minutes off for 8 hours, and then 5 minutes on, 15 minutes off for one hour. This was not true for some of our competitors. The plastic cases were ABS, which was nearly indestructible.

The first Triton prototype had a handle, because it was assumed that boat owners would not leave the radio on the boat, but take it with them. Hence the easily detachable cradle. But marketing decided the handle added too much to the cost.

We had some discussion about the color of the heat sink. "Everyone" knows that a black heat sink works better than a white one. We tested that and found that any color paint worked better than bare aluminum, but white worked as well as black..

List price usually ended up 5 times the manufacturing cost. The difference was not all profit. Other expenses were factored in, like development, marketing, and warranty
I have over 7,000 MSI subscribers on a 15 site simulcast 2021.1 800MHz system(mostly APX, some legacy but fewer as they are being replaced with N70s). MSI: you get what you pay for. A subscriber product designed to perform. Not perfect but very few issues and build quality is not one of them. A system designed to perform to save user's lives and keep people safe. Yes it was millions. That's what tools not toys cost folks.

Today's hams are too cheap, spoiled and technically incompetent to appreciate what quality subscriber equipment really costs and why. I was a child when the Triton and Metrum were in their prime, but back then, the technical bar for being a ham was much higher than the YouTube/Bowturd crowd demand today and I can see why Motorola would offer a commercial amateur product, even if it was a "one off" of a marine or LMR subscriber.
 
Top