Motorola Ht1250 Question

[7586]

Do All Ht1250 Radios Have The Same Features Such As

--------------16 Channel Rotary (16 Zones)=128 Channels
--------------pre And Post Tx

 

[Mr_Observer]

HT 1250s all have 128 channels. I have NO idea what you mean by "pre and Post tx".

Fromm Motorola .com:

Highlights of the Motorola HT1250™ Portable Two Way Radio

Battery Life (based on 5/5/90 duty cycle) - 8 hours

Call Tones - Quik Call II™

Channels - 128

Cloning - With Cable

Coverage - Programming Software allows adjustable power output for varying coverage

Dimensions H x W x L (with standard battery) - 5.4" x 2.26" x 1.5"

Display - Yes

Emergency Button - Yes

Frequency - Low Band (29.7-42, 35-50MHz), VHF (136-174MHz), UHF (403-470, 450-512MHz)

Front Panel Programmable - No

Interference Eliminator Codes - 42 PL, 84 DPL

Intrinsically Safe - Option

Keypad - Yes

Mil Spec - 810 C, D, E

Model Includes - NiMH Battery, Intelli-Charger, Belt Clip, Antenna, Operating Instruction Manual

Option Board Available - Yes

Power - 4W-UHF, 5W-VHF, 6W-Low Band

Programmable Buttons - 7

Signaling - Quik Call II™, DTMF, MDC-1200

Technology - Analog

VibraCall - No

Voice Activation (VOX) - Yes

Warranty - Two Year Warranty

Weight (with standard battery) - 15 oz.

 

[ryan81986]

Maybe he means the ability to do MDC and similar tones before and/or after transmitting. And I believe it does.

 

[FuelForFire]

That all depends on what type of HT1250 you have.


Here is a precise breakdown:

HT1250
Conventional only - 128 modes

HT1250LS
Conventional - 16 modes
LTR - 128 talkgroups
*Also should be noted that it is not capable of signalling (i.e. MDC) in conventional modes

HT1250LS+
... 5AN
Conventional -16 modes
LTR and Passport- 128 talkgroups

... 6AN
Conventional -128 modes
LTR and Passport- 128 talkgroups

Furthermore, the HT1250LS can be programmed with 18 conventional personalities if there are no trunking personalities programmed instead of 16. This is because of the available memory.

Hope that sheds a little light for you.

Mike

 

[7586]

Ht1250

Pre And Post Means I Push The Transmit Button And Before I Speak It Makes A Roger Tone And When I Take My Finger Off The Transmit Button It Makes Another Roger Tone.

Its Cool Our Line Officer Use This
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But My Dealer Told Me That The Ht1250 Has Only 16 Channels And I Told Him That He Can Program Zones.

How Hard It It To Program A Zone And Scaning?

 

[Mr_Observer]

Pre And Post Means I Push The Transmit Button And Before I Speak It Makes A Roger Tone And When I Take My Finger Off The Transmit Button It Makes Another Roger Tone.

Its Cool Our Line Officer Use This
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But My Dealer Told Me That The Ht1250 Has Only 16 Channels And I Told Him That He Can Program Zones.

How Hard It It To Program A Zone And Scaning?

A Rodger tone huh? I hear new names for these things everyday! But yes it sounds like you are talking about the MDC feature of the radio. It isn't really a tone though more like a data burst. MDC is pretty cool though you can do some pretty neat stuff with it.

If your dealer told you that it only has 16 modes he is totally incorrect. Shame on him! He should know better than to make such a statement. You can easily build a zone and scanning is easy too. Heck you can even set it up to have a scan list that the user can change from the front panel of the radio.

MR_O

 

[pogbobo]

I wish there was a scanner that could decode MDC ... I hooked up the bct15 to my laptop and used some program called WinMDC and it decoded it fine, it was pretty cool ... and imho the 1250s are sweet radios! but im still a kenwood man

 

[FuelForFire]

If your dealer told you that it only has 16 modes he is totally incorrect. Shame on him! He should know better than to make such a statement.
MR_O

It depends on the type of HT1250... see my post above. Some are only capable of 16 conventional channels. The radio is capable of 128 'modes' but I doubt the OP has a need for Passport or LTR.

So if the OP has a LS/LS+ in hand and asks the dealer how many channels he can program, the correct answer is 16.

 

[7586]

Ht1250

I gave him a list with 16 channels in each zone and he said that this radio only has 16 channels. But then he called motorola and they told him that they have zones and you will have to program and build a zone. The mod # had a 6 in the last number. This is what it showed when it was read.

IDK

 

[Mr_Observer]

Well I stand corrected. Further research indicates that those LTR versions CAN only do 16 conventional modes. I have programmed piles of those things and I have never heard of that version. I guess I learn somthing every day.

 

[ja2765]

Roger Tones

Pre And Post Means I Push The Transmit Button And Before I Speak It Makes A Roger Tone And When I Take My Finger Off The Transmit Button It Makes Another Roger Tone.

A Rodger tone huh? I hear new names for these things everyday! But yes it sounds like you are talking about the MDC feature of the radio. It isn't really a tone though more like a data burst. MDC is pretty cool though you can do some pretty neat stuff with it.

MR_O

Amen, Mr O. There are so many "slang terms" in use to describe MDC it is hard to keep up...

7586:
Roger Tones you speak of are MDC Signalling. Essentially (and this is a broad summary) it is the A.N.I. (Automatic Number Identification) for your organization. As stated above by MR_O, it is data that is sent over the air to your agency's console and other mobiles/portables, displaying your predefined "ID#" on the LCD displays. In public safety, MDC Signalling is used to identify personnel when they transmit on a given channel. This is the technology behing the "Emergency Button" on your portable, etc. etc. Usually it is your call sign or badge number on a public safety channel.

So, the tones you hear is actually data. There are different versions of these tones, and it depends on the type of MDC Signalling in use. The most popular for public safety analog frequencies is MDC1200.

If you really want to learn more about the technology behind Roger Tones, surf the batlab's site or Motorola...here is a good starting point: http://www.batlabs.com/mdc1200.html

Note that there are also sidetones that you can use with the HT jedi radios like the HT1000 or the HT1250. Sidetones are a little different...

Someone who programs radios can guide you with changing your tones or making it so that you hear the tones both at the beginning and ending of each transmission. Usually, radios are programmed to sound the MDC signal at the beginning of a transaction, so that other users can immediately "see" who is talking. I have heard guys' radios that push tones both at the start and finish of a transmission.

Hope this helps. This might sound geeky, but it is actually very cool technology.

 

[mancow]

He's a Motorola dealer and he doesn't know what the Waris series is capable of and that the HT1250 does zones?!?!

I think I might consider going elsewhere for programming.

I gave him a list with 16 channels in each zone and he said that this radio only has 16 channels. But then he called motorola and they told him that they have zones and you will have to program and build a zone. The mod # had a 6 in the last number. This is what it showed when it was read.

IDK

 

[7586]

Ht1250

I got it back programmed (16 channels) He said that there was only 16 conv channels. But when i check the menu is has the word zone. I guess he doesnt know how to advance program the radio? But i know you can do anything with the software. He migth not know how to use it because hes new to moto and hes been working with kenwood for years.

Also he said that you cant program the rotary knobs ?????????????????????

I think i should get it reprogrammed from an motorola experienced programmer.

But it was for a low price so what the heck