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Metrofire31

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I've read NUMEROUS forums and articles about using discriminator taps/scanners and PCs to monitor MOTOTRBO radio traffic. I have NOT been able to find whether it is possible to use, for example, a Motorola XPR-6550 (a TRBO-capable radio) instead of a scanner, to obtain the audio of a TRBO system.

Is that possible and, if so, does it make the process easier than using a scanner?

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I believe you would need all the info about who you want to scan. Group IDs, Color Codes, and TS for each.

SDR and DMR Decode can provide that.

If not encrypted or RAS you can then enter info into radio. Use RX ONLY on such a channel programmed in though. Don't know about doing it with any non reg Trbo like their trunking stuff.

No radio currently does CSQ or "Monitor all" for Trbo. That may change shortly but from what I understand its not possible now.
 

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So let me see 8 dollars for DSD Parts and Free Software That you know will work unless it is encoded. vs MotoTrbo Radio 300 plus and Motorola Software that is hard to get and it may not work. Easy choice if you ask me.
 

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We use a turbo system and your not getting on the system to hear anything without our admin making your radio...mobile or portable ID hot. Once you power up your radio has to verify with central and if not authorized your bricked from getting access.

A quote from the server set up software " IDs must be unique to
across all Talk Groups and Users " Further TRBO radios with up to date firmware won't monitor (unmute on) systems without the correct key in their codeplug.

Just my two cents from a system user
 

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That's only true if you're running a Connect Plus system with RAS enabled.

Even then, DSD can still be used to monitor the system.
 

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I've read NUMEROUS forums and articles about using discriminator taps/scanners and PCs to monitor MOTOTRBO radio traffic. I have NOT been able to find whether it is possible to use, for example, a Motorola XPR-6550 (a TRBO-capable radio) instead of a scanner, to obtain the audio of a TRBO system.

Is that possible and, if so, does it make the process easier than using a scanner?

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Yes you can monitor Moto's latest "TRBO" disaster with a scanner if it's set up right, as well as anything else that's transmitted. I have one I'd send out for free if you wanted it as I don't use it anymore.
 

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Define "set up right".

I and a lot of other people would disagree with it being a disaster. Works great for me.
 

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Yes you can monitor Moto's latest "TRBO" disaster
TRBO is a great selling product for us. After a hands on demo, people love it.

Small two repeater capacity plus trunking systems are taking off for us, IP site connect is just behind it.

Please define "disaster".
 

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I have used Moto, Simoco, Hytera, and Connect Systems radios to monitor systems in our area. All the radios work great for listening to conventional repeaters, but the connect Systems radio works the best on trunking systems.

You would have to program the voice channels but since it only decodes the Groups that have been put into the radio you could selectively scan a DMR trunking system quite well.

For the price the CS radios are worth it too, cheaper then a digital scanner. Take some time playing with DSD and a tapped scanner first before you decide to spend the money.
 

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Define "set up right".

I and a lot of other people would disagree with it being a disaster. Works great for me.
"Set up right" in the way that you've either tapped the existing discriminator as it is, modified the existing circuit to tap it more effectively for the specific purpose, or modified and/or replaced one or a number of components altogether to optimize the discriminative block for an intended purpose.

"Disaster" is a misnomer here. Somewhat disappointing, to myself personally, would have been the better expression. For their price point, target demographic and uses, IMO they're reasonable.
 

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We use a turbo system and your not getting on the system to hear anything without our admin making your radio...mobile or portable ID hot. Once you power up your radio has to verify with central and if not authorized your bricked from getting access.

A quote from the server set up software " IDs must be unique to
across all Talk Groups and Users " Further TRBO radios with up to date firmware won't monitor (unmute on) systems without the correct key in their codeplug.

Just my two cents from a system user
This only applies to systems using RAS. Otherwise any TRBO system can be passively monitored. If RAS is being used you can still listen with DSD+. If you really want to keep people from listening you would need to use RAS + privacy.
 

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This only applies to systems using RAS. Otherwise any TRBO system can be passively monitored. If RAS is being used you can still listen with DSD+. If you really want to keep people from listening you would need to use RAS + privacy.
You can also listen using a TRBO radio. You modify the radio. The radio is a TRBO decoder, just like DSD+. And all the nonsense the fools at Moto add on (RAS, Signaling, TPTs, etc) becomes irrelevant.
 

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We have found in testing that many times non Moto radios outperform the motos in scanning. Especially on Capacity Plus trunking.
 
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