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Hello all, I'm new to this so please bare with me. I got 3 MTS2000 flashport radio's from my friend. 2 of which has a screen on the front (That's not readable) and 1 that has a screen on the top. I believe these radio's are 800Mhz. The radio with the screen on top I can PTT fine and pick it up on my scanner. The other two when I PTT they make a bonking noise. I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to put the other two into talk around mode bypassing the 800Mhz system. Any help would be appreciate. Please let me know if I don't make sense.
 

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Sounds like the 2 that are making a "bonking" noise are not programmed to transmit at a minimum if not programmed at all.


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Yea. If the display worked you might get an idea if it was programmed or not. But the only sure fire way to know is read the radio via RSS or possibly CPS.


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Failed displays on these are pretty common.

If you can provide the model numbers (probably starts with H01....) we could tell you what they are.

Unless the radios are programmed for simplex or they have a talk around function programmed to one of the buttons already, there isn't a way to do this without programming.

Then there is the whole licensing issue. If you don't know what frequency these are on, then you are not licensed. They may be from a local system, and you could easily cause interference. This is the reason that any of the radios I surplus all get completely wiped and reloaded with a single receive only channel before they go out the door.
 

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Radio that does transmit: Model #: H01UCD6PW1BN
It's coming up on Freq: 867.9750 CT: 156.7 -- I did check and they are not local freq. Got the radio's from a friend in Texas and that's what pops up when I search the freq.

The model number for the other two not transmitting are: H01UCF6PW1BN

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Radio that does transmit: Model #: H01UCD6PW1BN

That's an 800MHz MTS-2000 model 1.



It's coming up on Freq: 867.9750 CT: 156.7 -- I did check and they are not local freq. Got the radio's from a friend in Texas and that's what pops up when I search the freq.

That's a pre-rebandig frequency. Maryland was in Phase 1, so your area was rebanded a few years ago. These frequencies are no longer for use by LMR radios. These frequencies now fall into those used by cellular carriers, so you very well could be interfering with them. Just because you don't hear anything doesn't mean you are not interfering. Tracking down interference is pretty easy, so I'd strongly caution you to NOT use these radios for anything other than listening.

The model number for the other two not transmitting are: H01UCF6PW1BN

That's an 800MHz MTS-2000 model 2.

Thanks for your help !

You are welcome. While I understand the desire to have professional quality radios, you really do need to be careful about how and where you use them. There are NO license free 800MHz frequencies. Most of the 800MHz band is used by cellular or public safety radio systems. Interfering with public safety radio systems can cause interference. Interfering with public safety radio systems can cost first responder lives. Please, stay legal with these radios. If you are looking for something you can transmit with, we'll be happy to point you in the right direction.
Not trying to get on your case over this. I run public safety radio systems, including some on 800MHz. I take my job very seriously since those that depend on these systems are the ones we all depend on for our safety. I'd like to offer my assistance in making sure these radios get use safely and legally.
 

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Good advice and info provided my mmckenna.


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Thanks for the information. Not my intention at all to interfer with communication at all. I need to see about selling them off or trading them. I only want a VHF radio that I can use to monitor. No transmit. With certain frequencies programmed. I don't need radio's that powerful.
 

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Got it.
These are old radios. They are analog only, so they won't do P25. They'll do SmartNet (and ~maybe~ SmartZone) trunking but with out the programming software and system keys, they're of limited use. They'd need to have their firmware reflashed to work on rebanded systems.

I dumped about 300 of these back in 2012 when I upgraded my system. We looked into selling them, but at the time there was a huge glut of them on the market. Ended up wiping them all and e-wasting most of them. Probably got a few cents per pound at best.
800MHz MTS-2000's in perfect shape with good displays are selling in the $20.00 range on e-Bay. MTS-2K's with bad displays make excellent door stops. Little in the way of salvageable parts.
 

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Lol ok. Good to know. I'm going to toss them. Will look around for a good highband VHF radio to do What I want. You've been a big help. Thanks !

New to the radio world so the help means a lot.
 

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800MHz MTS-2000's in perfect shape with good displays are selling in the $20.00 range on e-Bay.
And most will be purchased by people who own MTS2000's [any band] that have bad displays. So really, the only value of a 800 MHz MTS2000 is the good display. UHF, & VHF MTS2000's are still great radios. I have a few that I use on the ham bands.
 

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Lol ok. Good to know. I'm going to toss them. Will look around for a good highband VHF radio to do What I want. You've been a big help. Thanks !

New to the radio world so the help means a lot.

What are you looking for specifically? There are a lot of good radios out there if you know what to look for, some good deals, too. If you just need a basic VHF analog radio for RX only, it's kind of hard to beat a 2000's era Kenwood. Good radios, cheaper programming than Motorola.
 

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Just a standard highband VHF 151-155 freq. Don't want to TX just RX is fine. Would be nice to have something with FPP. Once we get into the computer programming I get lost lol
 

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Scanner might be your best choice.
FPP is useful, but it won't let you program everything. Things like channel names and some signaling need to be done via a computer.

If an FPP 2 way radio is what you really want, then take a look at the Kenwood TK-290 with full keypad. I use one of those as my own personal radio. It has FPP that's not too difficult to use.

Motorola JT-1000's are popular, but can be expensive. They are limited to 16 channels, though. You also need the FPP programming key, in most cases. I've got two of these, and they are pretty nice, but I like my Kenwood a bit better.
 

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And most will be purchased by people who own MTS2000's [any band] that have bad displays. So really, the only value of a 800 MHz MTS2000 is the good display. UHF, & VHF MTS2000's are still great radios. I have a few that I use on the ham bands.

One good trick is when buying radios from e-bay or other locations, is to read it first with the RSS/CPS before even thinking of pushing the transmit button. You will know exactly what if any frequencies are programmed in it, especially transmit ones. You never know what was left in it before being sold. That makes sure the TX frequency won't interfere with someone else or worse. I once purchased a VHF Model III real good condition from an agency auction when they went to 800MHz trunking. The very first thing I did since the battery was charged, I read the codeplug and by chance the channel it was on, was the statewide emergency interop frequency and all the old Sheriff's VHF frequencies were still in the radio. Apparently it wasn't wiped by the Sheriff's Dept's radio shop. Their old frequency pairs were dead since the switch but the statewide emergency frequency is monitored 24/7 by the State Patrol so someone is always monitoring it. Loaded my new codeplug and the radio worked like a charm.

After a couple of years the display started loosing pixels but to this day it still works and sounds great I retired it to storage since purchasing a much newer and feature packed radio. Motorola built the MTS2000's like a tank, it could take a lickin but keep on ticken!..
 
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