Don't want to start a new thread. Does this cover MURS? I mean, the part 95 bit? So a part 90 radio for MURS is a no-go?
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Don't want to start a new thread. Does this cover MURS? I mean, the part 95 bit? So a part 90 radio for MURS is a no-go?
mmckenna
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Yes, Part 95 covers MURS
A MURS radio -must- have Part 95 certification. A radio with only Part 90 certification is a no-go.
nd5y
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Correct. MURS is under Part 95 Subpart J.
You can search the FCC OET database for all equipment authorization grants for Part 95 with a frequency range of 151.82 - 154.6 and it will return all the legal MURS radios.
Thanks.
Is it just me, or are there little to no MURS part 95J radios to even pick from? Yeah, they have some old turn of the century Walmart Motorola radios, but I don't want that! What or why was MURS formed for again?
How about the FCC just part 90 MURS and call it a day...
How about the FCC just part 90 MURS and call it a day...
nd5y
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There aren't very many radios because it's a tiny US-only market.
You would have to look up the FCC notices and orders from about 1999-2000 to find the reason they created MURS.
The MURS frequencies were moved from Part 90 to 95. I doubt that there will be any changes.
You would have to look up the FCC notices and orders from about 1999-2000 to find the reason they created MURS.
The MURS frequencies were moved from Part 90 to 95. I doubt that there will be any changes.
jhooten
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Yeah, I know it is a baofeng CCR.
ICOM America makes a couple of them.
www.icomamerica.com
www.icomamerica.com
Motorola Solutions as well still sells them.
www.motorolasolutions.com
Then add the list to the CCR market with Baofeng, Retevis and others
IC-V10MR | Products | Icom America.
Icom,America,Land Mobile,Marine,Aviation,Amateur,Network,Systems
www.icomamerica.com
IC-V3MR | Products | Icom America.
Icom,America,Land Mobile,Marine,Aviation,Amateur,Network,Systems
www.icomamerica.com
Motorola Solutions as well still sells them.
RMM2050 Two-way Radio - Motorola Solutions
Click here to learn more about the RMM2050, a business radio that operates on 5 MURS business exclusive frequencies and is FCC license free.
Then add the list to the CCR market with Baofeng, Retevis and others
mmckenna
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The Icom MURS radios are pretty nice. Can't go wrong with those.
Ritron sells a couple of MURS radios also,
JMX series:
NT series:
The Icom and Ritron radios are not cheap, so most go with the CCR's because of the price. But if you are looking for a quality/durable radio, the Icom and Ritron are the way to go.
My brother in law uses the Ritron NT series radios for his tower crews and they've stood up to that sort of abuse really well.
Ritron sells a couple of MURS radios also,
JMX series:
NT series:
The Icom and Ritron radios are not cheap, so most go with the CCR's because of the price. But if you are looking for a quality/durable radio, the Icom and Ritron are the way to go.
My brother in law uses the Ritron NT series radios for his tower crews and they've stood up to that sort of abuse really well.
Why was MURS really formed? Because every store imaginable (including home depot, radio shack, and the like) were selling the Blue Dot/Green Dot business radios and just slipping the FCC license application form in the box. They were relatively cheap, sold like hotcakes, and of course nobody actually paid for a license (which like was $199 or something back then). Blue/Green Dot literally became a free-for-all kinda like the FRS of today. The FCC didn't know what the hell to do with that mess, so they just made it license by rule, in true FCC fashion.
I still have probably 2 dozen Green/Blue/Red Dot 2 channel 1 or 2 Watt radios. Forget who made them.
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Gee, sounds A LOT like GMRS. Let's make combination FRS/GMRS radio's, sell them a Cabela's, slip a little note in the owners manual stating GMRS use must license and call it a day!
smittie
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And Citizen Band before that (or similar timing). We bought CBs in the mid to late '70s that had a form in the box. Fill out the form, include a check for $5 and send it to this FCC address. Failure to do so may result in large fines. No one did.
Yep! That's pretty much what they were, except these things were Part 90 radios specifically for business band use. Pretty much destroyed those frequencies.
Found one of my old ones. This was the good model.
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ICOM America makes a couple of them.
IC-V10MR | Products | Icom America.
Icom,America,Land Mobile,Marine,Aviation,Amateur,Network,SystemsIC-V3MR | Products | Icom America.
Icom,America,Land Mobile,Marine,Aviation,Amateur,Network,Systems
Motorola Solutions as well still sells them.
RMM2050 Two-way Radio - Motorola Solutions
Click here to learn more about the RMM2050, a business radio that operates on 5 MURS business exclusive frequencies and is FCC license free.
Then add the list to the CCR market with Baofeng, Retevis and others
Thank you. It's exactly what I'm looking for in a MURS radio.
Question: is voice inversion even allowed on MURS? Me thinks not. I've heard it on FRS/GMRS and saw the radios with the feature. I used to "decode" the audio with a program that I still have today.
mmckenna
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"Voice Obscuring Features" are not currently allowed for any of the voice services in Part 95.
Federal Register :: Request Access
www.ecfr.gov
For a while, they were permitted on FRS, but that was quickly shut down when even the FCC realized what stupid idea it was.
Why was it a stupid idea? Was it due to interference or something? Just not making the connection. HAHA
mmckenna
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It was never meant to be a private radio service.
With a limited number of channels it made it difficult for some users to know if the channel was in use or not. So, yeah, interference.
It was just basic voice inversion scrambling, but the exact settings were not standardized, so it made different brands non-compatible.
I was actually about to guess Ranger RCI1000
Your 1001's were the updated ones with the toggle switch instead of the slider which failed a lot.
In high school, (in the 90's) our ROTC was licensed on business band and used the ranger radios for various things. Those things, for their size, were pretty indestructable.
bill4long
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I have a couple of those. Despite the hatred of all things CCR amongst so many, these radios work just fine.
smittie
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I also have several Baofeng and BTECH radios. And I will buy more. They fit the intended purpose perfectly, perform as well as I need them to.
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