LGLHOOK
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1 fatality Big rig and SUV involved I-80 both directions closed at SR-201 junction
Tooele Law 1, Tooele Fire 1, Tooele Regional, Air/LZ 1
Tooele Law 1, Tooele Fire 1, Tooele Regional, Air/LZ 1
MVA I-80 & SR-201 Closed
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Fatal accident temporarily closes I-80 near Tooele
ksl.com - Fatal accident temporarily closes I-80 near Tooele
TOOELE -- Crews are working to clear up a fiery, fatal accident on Interstate 80 near Tooele.
It happened in the eastbound lanes around 11 a.m. Utah Highway Patrol confirms one fatality and says a Fed-Ex truck and a car were involved. At one point both vehicles were engulfed in flames.
It's unclear how many people are injured.
Tooele County dispatchers say I-80 eastbound at milepost 102 will be shut down for a couple of hours as crews clean up the crash. Right now westbound lanes are closed for cleanup as well. This is right where S.R. 201 westbound connects with I-80 westbound.
Traffic is being diverted off of S.R. 201 westbound at 5600 West.
Stay with KSL Newsradio 102.7 FM/1160 AM and KSL.com for updates on this developing story.
ksl.com - Fatal accident temporarily closes I-80 near Tooele
TOOELE -- Crews are working to clear up a fiery, fatal accident on Interstate 80 near Tooele.
It happened in the eastbound lanes around 11 a.m. Utah Highway Patrol confirms one fatality and says a Fed-Ex truck and a car were involved. At one point both vehicles were engulfed in flames.
It's unclear how many people are injured.
Tooele County dispatchers say I-80 eastbound at milepost 102 will be shut down for a couple of hours as crews clean up the crash. Right now westbound lanes are closed for cleanup as well. This is right where S.R. 201 westbound connects with I-80 westbound.
Traffic is being diverted off of S.R. 201 westbound at 5600 West.
Stay with KSL Newsradio 102.7 FM/1160 AM and KSL.com for updates on this developing story.
Sad to say this is not an example of good inter-operability from a radio standpoint.
Tooele Law 1
Tooele Fire 1
Tooele Regional
VECC Ch 2
Salt Lake Co UHP
LZ1
That I have heard. Only common channels they all have are LZ1 and LZ2. Don’t most of those radios have like 3 zones with 15 channels each? So 45 channels? Seems they could/should punch the neighboring counties regional channels in there somewhere.
Tooele Law 1
Tooele Fire 1
Tooele Regional
VECC Ch 2
Salt Lake Co UHP
LZ1
That I have heard. Only common channels they all have are LZ1 and LZ2. Don’t most of those radios have like 3 zones with 15 channels each? So 45 channels? Seems they could/should punch the neighboring counties regional channels in there somewhere.
Utah_Viper
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I was surprised they did not patch some of these together.
The drug bust i think is seperate that happened I 80 at mile post 54. Sounds like to me they are at the Rest Area and doing a drug sting.
qlajlu
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At one point Tooele Dispatch tried to move their traffic to Tooele Law 2 but Salt Lake UHP didn't have it of course. So Tooele moved everyone else over to Law 2. Mean while there was another air evac going on out in Vernon so they had all those guys on Tooele Fire 2. It was after the air evacs took place and some of the tenders that were sent out with water were heading back to get water that they made the move to Tooele Regional for units working that. But the only coordination on the ground between Salt Lake UHP and the fire units not sure if they were UFA or what took place face to face on the ground.
Being an armchair QB I think they should have put the Salt Lake units on their regional and Tooele likewise and then patch the 2 regional channels. Or at least the 2 commands. Both the Tooele fire units and SL fire units had commands established.
Being an armchair QB I think they should have put the Salt Lake units on their regional and Tooele likewise and then patch the 2 regional channels. Or at least the 2 commands. Both the Tooele fire units and SL fire units had commands established.
qlajlu
Silent Key
Speaking of Armchair Quarterbacking, I can't help but think that any Battalion Chief worth his weight in gold stripes, Tooele side or SL side, would allow this situation go without a good "action report and debriefing."
The interoperability of the UCAN trunking system made national headlines during the Trolley Square massacre. Can't understand why it was so deficient in this situation.
You know one of the things I have noticed is it really comes down to the personalities of the players. If you have a strong personality they tend to take charge of the thing and if they think of it they either code the channel or move the incident over to another one. (Rice-Eccles gas leak comes to mind too.) If they are more passive they tend to wait for someone else to do it. It’s not that I think the incident commanders are passive they just have more on their plate and tending to react to what is happening at the scene. This is where I think the dispatchers need to step in and make the call.
I worked several years in the tactical operations center (TOC) of a Cavalry Squadron including the 1st Gulf. You would get similar situations where multiple units of your were engaged and sending mass amounts of information and likewise looking for information. That is where the TOC earned it’s paycheck. It received, digested and forwarded the information to the commanders and higher. There are times you can hear the PD or the FD asking for stuff the other has and they are both working the same incident but if the dispatch is not relaying it they tend to only get the information when they specifically ask for it. The FD guys are trained to establish command with the first senior person on scene which is great. But in my opinion one of the things they need to do is then immediately establish an incident channel and every unit responding to the incident needs to move to that channel. (VECC kind of does this when they dispatch)
It’s not to say that this is the only way or the right way just seems reasonable. I understand there would be a lot of things to over come to get to something like that including territorial pissing by agencies. But to many time I hear this floundering of units because of lack of communication.
I worked several years in the tactical operations center (TOC) of a Cavalry Squadron including the 1st Gulf. You would get similar situations where multiple units of your were engaged and sending mass amounts of information and likewise looking for information. That is where the TOC earned it’s paycheck. It received, digested and forwarded the information to the commanders and higher. There are times you can hear the PD or the FD asking for stuff the other has and they are both working the same incident but if the dispatch is not relaying it they tend to only get the information when they specifically ask for it. The FD guys are trained to establish command with the first senior person on scene which is great. But in my opinion one of the things they need to do is then immediately establish an incident channel and every unit responding to the incident needs to move to that channel. (VECC kind of does this when they dispatch)
It’s not to say that this is the only way or the right way just seems reasonable. I understand there would be a lot of things to over come to get to something like that including territorial pissing by agencies. But to many time I hear this floundering of units because of lack of communication.
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