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The point is that it should be lower than checking the end-to-end inductance of the inner and outer conductors separately, because the currents are equal and opposite, and the magnetic fields hitting the ferrite from each conductor cancel each other out.
 

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....Thus, a ferrite (and a choke balun) presents a high inductive impedance to unbalanced currents, but has little or no effect on balanced currents. It doesn't care whether the imbalance is in the shield or the center conductor....

....FYI shielding works by currents induced in a conductor creating a magnetic field that is equal and opposite to the magnetic field that induced the current. If there is no current flow, there is no shielding effect....

It's difficult to grasp that a ferrit choke outside of a coax will magneticly (RF are electro magnetic waves) have an effect thru the metallic shield to another metallic object (the innerlead) on the other side of the shield. How do screen boxes work that are supposed to screen out interfering RF from the outside.

It seems that different experts on the web, professors and others, have a hard time explaining how a balun works and try to apply different theories to it and some even say that they actually don't know exactly how and why they work.

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Here is a statement from Jim Brown K9YC in an excellent article on RFI and Ferrites about common mode chokes and baluns: "Using Common Mode Chokes As Baluns Maxwell taught us to use a common mode choke at the feedpoint of an antenna to minimize interaction of the feedline with the antenna – that is, to de- couple the feedline from the antenna."

And later in the article when discussing another article in The ARRL Antenna Compendium Vol 1, Roy Lewallen, W7EL states "If the common mode impedance is high enough, common mode current can be forced to near zero, which in turn forces near ideal balance".

What I summarize from the article is a ferrite choke balun does not affect currents inside the coax but the overall result of using an effective choke balun is it creates a balance on otherwise unbalanced coaxial cable.
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It's difficult to grasp that a ferrit choke outside of a coax will magneticly (RF are electro magnetic waves) have an effect thru the metallic shield to another metallic object (the innerlead) on the other side of the shield. How do screen boxes work that are supposed to screen out interfering RF from the outside.

It seems that different experts on the web, professors and others, have a hard time explaining how a balun works and try to apply different theories to it and some even say that they actually don't know exactly how and why they work.

/Ubbe
 

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It's difficult to grasp that a ferrit choke outside of a coax will magneticly (RF are electro magnetic waves) have an effect thru the metallic shield to another metallic object (the innerlead) on the other side of the shield. How do screen boxes work that are supposed to screen out interfering RF from the outside.

It is simple.

Non-magnetic shielding materials only shield by having an equal-but-opposite current flowing. No current, no shielding effect. A Faraday cage works by allowing induced currents in a surface that cancel out the magnetic field that induced them. You can see this at near-DC frequencies in superconductors as magnetic levitation. When you bring a magnet near the superconductor, the magnetic field of the magnet induces a current in the surface of the superconductor, which has its own magnetic field that is equal and opposite. The magnet levitates, but no magnetic field is seen on the opposite side of the superconductor, because magnetic the fields of the permanent magnet and the induced current in the superconductor are exactly equal but opposite and cancel each other out. The superconductor shields the magnetic field while levitating the permanent magnet.

It is easy to create a current in the center conductor of coax that doesn't have an equal-but-opposite current flowing in the shield. Whenever you do so, the coax will radiate RF, even if neither end if the outer conductor is directly connected to anything. If you were to cut the outer braid of a 108" piece of coax at 1" intervals so that they were electrically disconnected, the center conductor would make an excellent CB antenna. The shielding would be completely ineffective, because no 27MHz currents could flow in it.
 
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