Need Help with Metro-25/MTA MRRS

[Jmbjr127]

Hello. I am trying to figure out how to program my scanner to receive transmissions from Pleasantville (NY) PD since they apparently joined MRRS on 5/6/24. I have been using my Radio Shack Pro-97 for a long time, but I can’t seem to get the frequencies that I found for MRRS Zone 2 to work. I would appreciate any assistance.

Thanks,
Jim

 

[dave3825]

The pro 97 does not decode digital trunking which is what the MRRS system is. Time for a new scanner or sdr dongles and software.

 

[Jmbjr127]

The pro 97 does not decode digital trunking which is what the MRRS system is. Time for a new scanner or sdr dongles and software.


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Thanks Dave. That’s the exact information I was looking for. Much appreciated.

Is there a scanner or two that you would recommend for this?

Thanks again.

 

[tvengr]

The Zone 3 site for Westchester County is simulcast. The only scanners designed to receive simulcast sites are the Uniden SDS100 handheld and SDS200 base/mobile. Any other scanners may or may not work depending upon your location. Here is a list of P25 Phase 2 capable scanners:

 

[Jmbjr127]

The Zone 3 site for Westchester County is simulcast. The only scanners designed to receive simulcast sites are the Uniden SDS100 handheld and SDS200 base/mobile. Any other scanners may or may not work depending upon your location. Here is a list of P25 Phase 2 capable scanners:

Thank you. This is very helpful information. I appreciate you sharing it.

 

[SABER3]

Maybe you can help. I have downloaded the Metro-25/MTA MRRS system from RR. Loaded it into my HP-2. Nothing. Cant even get a hit on a control channel. I about 5 miles from the Babylon TS. I have a nice 18" whip feeding a Stridesburg pre-amp. A friend works for the MTA, confirmed RR info good. WTF am I doing wrong. This is the only system I cant receive.

 

[seagravebuff60]

Maybe you can help. I have downloaded the Metro-25/MTA MRRS system from RR. Loaded it into my HP-2. Nothing. Cant even get a hit on a control channel. I about 5 miles from the Babylon TS. I have a nice 18" whip feeding a Stridesburg pre-amp. A friend works for the MTA, confirmed RR info good. WTF am I doing wrong. This is the only system I cant receive.

I'm assuming you are programming in Zone 1. I'm sure that the HP-2 is suffering from simulcast distortion. I've never dealt with an HP-2, but can you try changing the P25 Threshold if you have that option? Do you have another receiver that you can try with?

 

[tvengr]

Maybe you can help. I have downloaded the Metro-25/MTA MRRS system from RR. Loaded it into my HP-2. Nothing. Cant even get a hit on a control channel. I about 5 miles from the Babylon TS. I have a nice 18" whip feeding a Stridesburg pre-amp. A friend works for the MTA, confirmed RR info good. WTF am I doing wrong. This is the only system I cant receive.

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[SABER3]

TY for the reply. i have a 396XT. will try that. the only other issue is does the HP-2 have to have any updates. i know they had the extreme update for the HP-1 which i purchased from Scannermaster, but never got it for the HP-2 becuz i thought it did Phase 2 out of the box.

 

[dave3825]

I don't believe the 396xt does phase 2.

BCD396XT system compatibility is linked here. Project 25 Standard Phase I (not Phase II)

 

[SABER3]

aha. TY. Will try with my old 536

 

[tvengr]

does the HP-2 have to have any updates.

The HP-2 is P25 Phase 2 out of the box.

 

[WestchesterFreq]

Hello. I am trying to figure out how to program my scanner to receive transmissions from Pleasantville (NY) PD since they apparently joined MRRS on 5/6/24. I have been using my Radio Shack Pro-97 for a long time, but I can’t seem to get the frequencies that I found for MRRS Zone 2 to work. I would appreciate any assistance.

Thanks,
Jim

Jim - Ever have any luck with Pleasantville PD? I have not with my BCD536HP or 436HP.

 

[Jmbjr127]

Jim - Ever have any luck with Pleasantville PD? I have not with my BCD536HP or 436HP.

No luck at all. Now I can’t even get Mt. Pleasant PD. I’m probably going to have to go with the SMS100. Big bucks, but I think I’m worth the investment!

 

[WestchesterFreq]

No luck at all. Now I can’t even get Mt. Pleasant PD. I’m probably going to have to go with the SMS100. Big bucks, but I think I’m worth the investment!

I’m able to get Mt. Pleasant as they switched over to digital (still 156.015) but Pville is hiding. They are building a new tower and supposedly using LTE until that’s complete but ??? Who knows.

 

[seagravebuff60]

No luck at all. Now I can’t even get Mt. Pleasant PD. I’m probably going to have to go with the SMS100. Big bucks, but I think I’m worth the investment!

Correct. Mount Pleasant PD remains on the same frequency but is switched to P25. See the link below.

Subcategory: Municipalities/Mount Pleasant (Westchester County)

Subcategory: Municipalities/Mount Pleasant Details (Westchester County)

www.radioreference.com

I haven't heard of the SMS100. Is that like some kind of Text Messaging upgrade? LOL. Anyway, Yes, I have my SDS200 listening to Mount Pleasant PD (And other P25 departments), and it's great.

Also, Pleasantville PD uses LTE, so when they do, you won't hear them. I get them on my SDRs using SDR Trunk, but only when they Affiliate to RF, which is not a lot of the time. They are on the Zone 2 and Zone 3 Simulcast. I think the LTE Network differs from Verizon, but I get like no signal, sometimes not even LTE, in the village around the firehouse and downtown near Manville and Bedford Roads. When I do get LTE, it's very, very slow.
Dobbs Ferry PD also relies on LTE heavily, so im surprised when I hear them.

 

[GTR8000]

Most public safety agencies use AT&T FirstNet for LTE service, however VZW does offer their own public safety LTE core/network known as Frontline.

 

[WestchesterFreq]

I think the LTE Network differs from Verizon, but I get like no signal, sometimes not even LTE, in the village around the firehouse and downtown near Manville and Bedford Roads. When I do get LTE, it's very, very slow.

Nick, I have Verizon and when I leave my home (at a higher elevation) and go through the downtown the call frequently drops. It’s been a joke amongst my neighbors for years despite the big monopole next to the village highway garage. Life in the big city……or should I say small town struggles.

 

[Jmbjr127]

Correct. Mount Pleasant PD remains on the same frequency but is switched to P25. See the link below.

Subcategory: Municipalities/Mount Pleasant (Westchester County)

Subcategory: Municipalities/Mount Pleasant Details (Westchester County)

www.radioreference.com

I haven't heard of the SMS100. Is that like some kind of Text Messaging upgrade? LOL. Anyway, Yes, I have my SDS200 listening to Mount Pleasant PD (And other P25 departments), and it's great.

Also, Pleasantville PD uses LTE, so when they do, you won't hear them. I get them on my SDRs using SDR Trunk, but only when they Affiliate to RF, which is not a lot of the time. They are on the Zone 2 and Zone 3 Simulcast. I think the LTE Network differs from Verizon, but I get like no signal, sometimes not even LTE, in the village around the firehouse and downtown near Manville and Bedford Roads. When I do get LTE, it's very, very slow.
Dobbs Ferry PD also relies on LTE heavily, so im surprised when I hear them.

Thanks guys for the great information. I’m realizing that being away from this technology for a little bit has shown me that I have a lot to learn. Especially the correct model number of the scanner that I’m purchasing! I recently ordered a couple SDR dongles and an antenna and am hoping to be up and running soon using that method. I’ve learned a lot from you guys already and am looking forward to learning more.

 

[SCFDCOMM]

Just curious, and if this post is an issue Mods feel free to delete...

This is two completely separate systems joined via ISSI.
Metro-21 and the MRRS, where did the term Metro-25 come from.