I am new at digital trunking and am lost. I have a Pro 651 which I think I have set up correctly but I don't hear anything on the palmetto talkgroup. I've got all the Greenville site frequencies programmed in and all of Greenville police dec codes active on my scan list. I've also got it set to mot 800/900 as the type. Should that be p25 auto? I read somewhere that I only need the red and blue colored towers, should I remove the others? Any help with be appreciated.
Need help with pro 651 and palmetto II smartzone
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Press Manual and navigate to one of the Greenville PD talkgroups you have programmed. Press the F2/TSYS button, then press F3/Analyze. Step through the programmed control channels and verify that one of them has a consistent buzzing noise that sounds similar to an idling diesel engine. It should be the Primary CC frequency of 853.8625/ What decoding percentage do you see?
Mot 800/900 is the correct setting for this system.
Mot 800/900 is the correct setting for this system.
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On our smart zone II system, decode had to be set for p25 auto
Ok i got 65%
65% isn't great, but should be enough to get some decode on the system.
Where you saw that 65% decoding rate, you should have seen the system ID of 2b02 listed (something like Sy:2b02) and the Site # of 35 listed.
When you press scan, you should see the frequency and system alpha-tags scroll across the bottom of the LCD screen as it scans. Every few seconds (depending on how many objects you're scanning) you should see the name of the system you entered for Palmetto 800, and the black "T" icon will appear for a half-second or so. Do you see this as the scanner scans?
Where you saw that 65% decoding rate, you should have seen the system ID of 2b02 listed (something like Sy:2b02) and the Site # of 35 listed.
When you press scan, you should see the frequency and system alpha-tags scroll across the bottom of the LCD screen as it scans. Every few seconds (depending on how many objects you're scanning) you should see the name of the system you entered for Palmetto 800, and the black "T" icon will appear for a half-second or so. Do you see this as the scanner scans?
Yes thats what I see. I think i found my problem. I only used the simulcast now I see that there are more frequencies for hogback mountain marked for greenville. Im gonna add those to the talk grouo and see if that helps.
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You may get some Greenville PD talkgroup activity off the Hogback site, but they're guaranteed to be carried on the Greenville Simulcast site. The Greenville site has transmitters on Paris Mtn, Downtown and Simpsonville.
There's also a site on Caesars Head, but again, it may not always carry Greenville PD, if at all.
If you're seeing the "T" indicator when scanning, then you're scanning the system. Navigate your scanner in Manual mode to Greenville PD Channel 3, which is 54768. Park the radio on that talkgroup, and you should see the "T" flicker consistently. Within a minute or two, you should hear activity.
There's also a site on Caesars Head, but again, it may not always carry Greenville PD, if at all.
If you're seeing the "T" indicator when scanning, then you're scanning the system. Navigate your scanner in Manual mode to Greenville PD Channel 3, which is 54768. Park the radio on that talkgroup, and you should see the "T" flicker consistently. Within a minute or two, you should hear activity.
I've been parked on 54768 for about 10 minutes and nothing.
Did you get a programming cable with your scanner where you can download the free Freescan software and purchase a subscription to the RR then you can download the greenville data to the freescan from RR and then program your scanner from the freescan software FreeSCAN - Sixspot Software
also take look at this page Easier to Read Pro-651/652/106/197 - WS1040/1065 - PSR 500/600 Digital Scanner Manual
also take look at this page Easier to Read Pro-651/652/106/197 - WS1040/1065 - PSR 500/600 Digital Scanner Manual
Not sure what to tell you. If you're parked on that talkgroup, and you see the "T" icon active, then your scanner is monitoring a control channel. Press the TSYS button, then ANALYZE and verify that that 853.8625 is the active control channel. And that it says Sy:2b02 and Site 35.
Here's another idea. Delete all frequencies from this TSYS object except 853.8625. That will ensure your scanner isn't locking onto another active CC for a site or system that isn't Site 35.
Report back.
Or as Lanny mentioned, if you're programming with software, upload a copy of the file for others to check. Or PM me your email address and we can take this over to email.
Here's another idea. Delete all frequencies from this TSYS object except 853.8625. That will ensure your scanner isn't locking onto another active CC for a site or system that isn't Site 35.
Report back.
Or as Lanny mentioned, if you're programming with software, upload a copy of the file for others to check. Or PM me your email address and we can take this over to email.
Did you program it as a rebanded system and input the custom trunking tables?
Ok 853.8625 wasn't the active control channel. I deleted all the frequencies except that one and got some action. My next question is do I only need the active control and alternates or do I need the whole list?
Glad you got it working.
At any given time, you only need the active control channel for the scanner to scan. It will ignore all channels that aren't control channels. Having to scan through a bunch of active channels to find the active CC will slow scanning speed down slightly.
In the case of Palmetto 800, control channels rarely change. I would program the active CC in position 1, and program the alternates after that. Omit the voice-only channels.
The 651 supports a couple of different multi-site scan options. Because Palmetto 800 has many sites, you may choose to take advantage of this feature if you move around a lot. Or if you want to listen to talkgroups that are only carried on certain sites. In this case, you can program additional active control channels into the same TSYS object. "Stat" mode has the scanner check all of the active CCs, where "Roam" mode has the scanner try to determine the "best" active CC and scan it until it is no longer the best.
My experience is that I typically only need to scan a single site 90% of the time, so I don't typically use the multi-site modes. But there are legitimate uses.
Example - You want to monitor Greenville PD and Spartanburg SO at the same time, and you're within receive range of both the Greenville (35) and Spartanburg (19) sites. You could program both CCs into your TSYS object, along with the appropriate talkgroups, and set the mode to "Stat". The scanner will scan both CCs, and it will receive Greenville PD talkgroups when checking the Greenville CC, and the Spartanburg SO talkgroups when checking the Spartanburg CC.
In that example, if you set the multi-site mode to "Roam" instead of "Stat", it will choose one of the CCs to scan every time. And you'll never hear one set of talkgroups or the other.
So it's best to determine which site (or sites) within your listening range carry the talkgroups you want to hear, and ensure that you're scanning the appropriate CCs within your TSYS object.
At any given time, you only need the active control channel for the scanner to scan. It will ignore all channels that aren't control channels. Having to scan through a bunch of active channels to find the active CC will slow scanning speed down slightly.
In the case of Palmetto 800, control channels rarely change. I would program the active CC in position 1, and program the alternates after that. Omit the voice-only channels.
The 651 supports a couple of different multi-site scan options. Because Palmetto 800 has many sites, you may choose to take advantage of this feature if you move around a lot. Or if you want to listen to talkgroups that are only carried on certain sites. In this case, you can program additional active control channels into the same TSYS object. "Stat" mode has the scanner check all of the active CCs, where "Roam" mode has the scanner try to determine the "best" active CC and scan it until it is no longer the best.
My experience is that I typically only need to scan a single site 90% of the time, so I don't typically use the multi-site modes. But there are legitimate uses.
Example - You want to monitor Greenville PD and Spartanburg SO at the same time, and you're within receive range of both the Greenville (35) and Spartanburg (19) sites. You could program both CCs into your TSYS object, along with the appropriate talkgroups, and set the mode to "Stat". The scanner will scan both CCs, and it will receive Greenville PD talkgroups when checking the Greenville CC, and the Spartanburg SO talkgroups when checking the Spartanburg CC.
In that example, if you set the multi-site mode to "Roam" instead of "Stat", it will choose one of the CCs to scan every time. And you'll never hear one set of talkgroups or the other.
So it's best to determine which site (or sites) within your listening range carry the talkgroups you want to hear, and ensure that you're scanning the appropriate CCs within your TSYS object.
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