New CLMRN Radio ID List

[adamfancher]

Due to unresolvable differences with multiple maintainers on the Radio ID wiki as well as shortcomings of the wikitables platform, I will no longer be submitting entries and am instead making my listings available in Excel spreadsheet format via Google Sheets. This will allow a consistently agreed upon format for entries as well as a more friendly browsing experience and more frequent updates as data will no longer need to be converted into wikitables format.

In order to keep the peace I've also removed my contributions from the Wiki as they do not fit the format that has been decided upon.

Stay tuned as I'll be making a link available shortly.

 

[MarkB513]

Due to unresolvable differences with multiple maintainers on the Radio ID wiki as well as shortcomings of the wikitables platform, I will no longer be submitting entries and am instead making my listings available in Excel spreadsheet format via Google Sheets. This will allow a consistently agreed upon format for entries as well as a more friendly browsing experience and more frequent updates as data will no longer need to be converted into wikitables format.

In order to keep the peace I've also removed my contributions from the Wiki as they do not fit the format that has been decided upon.

Stay tuned as I'll be making a link available shortly.

That's an unfortunate shame....

 

[adamfancher]

I agree, but I think a parting of ways will allow everyone to peacefully go about doing things the way they want to do them. I also believe that when one door closes, another opens and the change in platform will be a vast improvement.

 

[MarkB513]

It just goes to show the "direction" such things are headed . It is what it is.

 

[adamfancher]

List is up:

Connecticut Land Mobile Radio Network Radio ID Listing - Google Drive

drive.google.com

 

[eric0234]

Any one have word if QV or eastern Connecticut rural fire departments are switching to the CLMRN full time in the future? Looks like they renewed their analog licenses but was wondering what would happen after that? Thanks if anyone has any info

 

[adamfancher]

I've been doing some updates in municipalities.
Haddam, Middlefield, Westport, Newington, Norwalk, Fairfield, Norwich, Stamford, Hartford and Bloomfield have been updated.

 

[Joshuab1128]

Just out of curiosity is there any other fire departments in the Hartford New Haven Fairfield county area switching to the clmrn?

 

[55engine]

why is Berlin missing?

 

[adamfancher]

You mean from the old list, right? It's back up. That was the listing I believe someone had their panties in a bunch about. I created it, started adding entries in one format, had them come along and start adding entries differently and when I adjusted the formatting let's say "a flag was raised" and I took down Berlin and some others temporarily to adjust to the "agreed upon" format...which is now just Radio ID's and OTA aliases. Whatever floats their boat, my list will continue to have extended descriptions, confirmation dates, last affiliation, radio types, etc. for myself and those that prefer the data in that format (with frequent updates). At this point the Wiki gets the "dregs" from my list, two lonely columns stripped out of my spreadsheet, but if that's the format they want then that's their choice.

 

[W1JOP]

Any one have word if QV or eastern Connecticut rural fire departments are switching to the CLMRN full time in the future? Looks like they renewed their analog licenses but was wondering what would happen after that? Thanks if anyone has any info

QV runs their own system that is a combination of UHF and VHF low band, QV does have patches into the state system though they don't as fas I know use the system directly, as far as I know the only rural FD on the state system is Ledard-Station R, GFA that is mostly SE New London County East of the Thames River and South of Ledyard minus stonington I think is mostly on the state system, Norwich all town services are on the state system
Montville PD is on the state system but the FD still runs on VHF
East Lyme town services are on their own VHF repeater system though for situations that may require mutual aide from Waterford they are patched into the Waterford regional system
Waterford Town Services are on Waterford regional
New London are Waterford regional

 

[KC1UA]

Respectfully, I have an issue with this.

As I drill down into these spreadsheets, I see the names of individual police officers, detectives, police chiefs, etc.. In my opinion this is irresponsible and conceivably could be another issue that causes this hobby to be viewed with negativity. More importantly it has the potential to introduce considerable safety issues for these people. Don't say "nah, that'll never happen", because while unlikely, it is possible. There is no way any individual names from any public safety agency should be included in these lists.

The fact that I worked almost thirty-four years for a police department really has nothing to do with it, but it makes my opinion somewhat stronger. I'm sure some will disagree.

I believe that these names should be removed.

 

[adamfancher]

Respectfully, I have an issue with this.

As I drill down into these spreadsheets, I see the names of individual police officers, detectives, police chiefs, etc.. In my opinion this is irresponsible and conceivably could be another issue that causes this hobby to be viewed with negativity. More importantly it has the potential to introduce considerable safety issues for these people. Don't say "nah, that'll never happen", because while unlikely, it is possible. There is no way any individual names from any public safety agency should be included in these lists.

The fact that I worked almost thirty-four years for a police department really has nothing to do with it, but it makes my opinion somewhat stronger. I'm sure some will disagree.

I believe that these names should be removed.

This is my list and people can look at it or not, it was asked that identifying details be removed from the public Radio Reference hosted listings even though names have been listed there for quite some time and I abided by that. Despite many of these names are derived from the OTA aliases that are transmitted over the air and were asked to be the identifier listed.

If the list offends you don't look at it. It's mine and I chose to share it.

The entire point of creating this list was so I could do my own thing and no one is going to regulate that.

 

[dimab]

Yikes. Tying names to license plates is too far.

 

[adamfancher]

Yikes. Tying names to license plates is too far.

The license plate numbers are transmitted over the air, i.e. "ASP-319WWL"

The CSP badge numbers, whether derived from audio confirmation or OTA alias, can be matched to names on public record found at cspnews.org

In many cases, names are often contained right in the OTA alias, i.e. 015 Gonzalez

NO information is being divulged that is not already out there.

 

[KC1UA]

The entire point of creating this list was so I could do my own thing and no one is going to regulate that.

Great. However, as soon as you make it publicly available, I don't believe you are doing "your own thing" any longer. There is a huge difference between keeping things to yourself and sharing them in an "off-list" manner vs. posting them for public consumption.

Despite many of these names are derived from the OTA aliases that are transmitted over the air and were asked to be the identifier listed.

Probably not the brightest thing for them to do either, given the software and tech that is available in this day and age. That said, they're not posting the data publicly. You are.

If the list offends you don't look at it. It's mine and I chose to share it.

It disturbs me. It offends common sense and the safety of the public safety personnel involved. I'm not going to waste my time painting you a picture; I believe you're intelligent enough to derive why.

I'm sure it's being posted elsewhere as well. The issue today is that I found yours.

 

[PurityControl2]

Great. However, as soon as you make it publicly available, I don't believe you are doing "your own thing" any longer. There is a huge difference between keeping things to yourself and sharing them in an "off-list" manner vs. posting them for public consumption.


Probably not the brightest thing for them to do either, given the software and tech that is available in this day and age. That said, they're not posting the data publicly. You are.


It disturbs me. It offends common sense and the safety of the public safety personnel involved. I'm not going to waste my time painting you a picture; I believe you're intelligent enough to derive why.

I'm sure it's being posted elsewhere as well. The issue today is that I found yours.

Agreed on all parts, not to mention the ranks he added for Troopers for example, are often completely incorrect in general and ended up being quite the inaccurate mess. In addition to all that, this dude Adam took it upon himself to delete entire sections from the official RR hosted list. I setup the Northwestern CT Transit District section to which he contributed absolutely nothing whatsoever, I added in every radio one by one just like we all do, then found he deleted the entire section after our disagreement, leaving me unable to undo his changes, so I once again had to add it from scratch. He said he would be removing only entries he contributed himself, but apparently not, and he is now playing the victim despite the fact that I, nor has anyone else, maliciously modified his entries. This gentleman does not seem to play well with others, use caution if you contribute to his list, because he can, and will, delete your contributions you spent your precious time adding out of spite. Lastly, I would like to further highlight his portrayal of being a victim and malicious actions. Adam decided to add this note to the top of the RR list, which he apparently removed after. This note is an exaggeration, and out of line, added out of spite due to a disagreement. He is still actively deleting his contributions, which I'll add is his right, however I personally would prefer not to work with people prone to such poor judgment and lack of self control.

 

[W1KNE]

This is my list and people can look at it or not, it was asked that identifying details be removed from the public Radio Reference hosted listings even though names have been listed there for quite some time and I abided by that. Despite many of these names are derived from the OTA aliases that are transmitted over the air and were asked to be the identifier listed.

If the list offends you don't look at it. It's mine and I chose to share it.

The entire point of creating this list was so I could do my own thing and no one is going to regulate that.

In today's climate where police are under constant threat and attack, posing a list like you did is dangerous. It's not that we're offended, it's that it's utterly stupid. And one of the many reasons why police departments are encrypting these days are specifically due to situations like this. It's up there with people blasting details of the ICE raids and police raids.

You're right, it's your right to such a list, but we have a right to call you out for it. A spade is a spade.

NO information is being divulged that is not already out there.

That may be so, but to the lay person, you've done the ground work and now make it easy to find out. Which is utterly stupid, as I stated above.

This is all I am going to say on the matter.

 

[W1JOP]

In today's climate where police are under constant threat and attack, posing a list like you did is dangerous. It's not that we're offended, it's that it's utterly stupid. And one of the many reasons why police departments are encrypting these days are specifically due to situations like this. It's up there with people blasting details of the ICE raids and police raids.

You're right, it's your right to such a list, but we have a right to call you out for it. A spade is a spade.


That may be so, but to the lay person, you've done the ground work and now make it easy to find out. Which is utterly stupid, as I stated above.

This is all I am going to say on the matter.

just for the record, when i saw the list for the first time in june I actually found it a bit creepy to be honest, the CSP has a hard job, I live in eastern CT most of Northern NL county and much of Windom county the CSP is the only law enforcement in town so they have towns plus the highways to cover, My thoughts are unless you know a trooper we really should not be knowing there names, we as scanner listeners are listening into their world and in SE ct there is at times distressing calls troopers go on they need their anonymity VIA there badge number that is the only thing we should know as scanner listener

my 2 cents

 

[adamfancher]

Suit yourselves.

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