New north central Kansas feed up!

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KD0TAZ

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Ship him a radio. I'm sure he would be happy to host one for you.

Yeaaaahhhh.. If I wanted another jumbled mess of a feed with every frequency and TG within a 100 mile radius I'd set it up myself, jackass.
 

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If you had bothered to read, I'm not bit ching, 40 watt. I'm trying to help him out, because right now his feed is an insufferable mess - and he's trying to justify it being a mess due to the fact that "scanners have thousands of channels, so why not use them". He is not grasping the concept that you can't do that on a streaming feed where the listener isn't in control of the scanner, and that the scan list has to be as lean as possible in order to catch meaningful conversation..
 

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If you had bothered to read, I'm not bit ching, 40 watt. I'm trying to help him out, because right now his feed is an insufferable mess - and he's trying to justify it being a mess due to the fact that "scanners have thousands of channels, so why not use them". He is not grasping the concept that you can't do that on a streaming feed where the listener isn't in control of the scanner, and that the scan list has to be as lean as possible in order to catch meaningful conversation..
His equipment his feed.Bottom line he can feed what he wants.
 

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If you had bothered to read, I'm not bit ching, 40 watt. I'm trying to help him out, because right now his feed is an insufferable mess - and he's trying to justify it being a mess due to the fact that "scanners have thousands of channels, so why not use them". He is not grasping the concept that you can't do that on a streaming feed where the listener isn't in control of the scanner, and that the scan list has to be as lean as possible in order to catch meaningful conversation..

He owns the equipment and the feed connection. You offered valid suggestions. He rejected them based on his own opinions. Why bother with it?
 

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Yeah, I appreciate your efforts to better my feed. You are correct in your thinking - I went looking through various feeds & most are quite specific - as you suggested. However, I'm correct in my thinking. If I just covered KHP C & D I'd never hear what was going on with the local counties. If I just monitored one or two counties, I'd never know what was going on with the KHP or the other counties. I wouldn't listen to a feed just covering one area, I never have. There are two feeds that cover one freq in this area, the same exact freq. They rarely get any use. Why? To narrow. Am I to wide? Maybe for you, not for me nor the listeners of my feed. However, I did trim out a lot of the fluff based off of your suggestion before I had read your suggestion.

I'll agree to disagree with you, as this is a matter of preferences - not right or wrong. Let's leave it at that & discontinue any further insults as it only serves to undermine your altruistic motivation.
 

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Hello Kansas!
I'm not the one to listen to online feeds but I brought this one up as I ran across this thread and the discussion.

Some observations:

There seems to be the perfect amount of talkgroups/channels being streamed for the amount of talking they do. Trimming it down to fewer areas as the one guy feels is necessary would make a very boring feed. (There was a significant amount of dead-air time already with the feed the way it is now over the 15 minutes that I listened to it.)

That said, the feed is overmodulated. Too loud causing distorted audio.
There is one analog fire dispatch on the feed that is so weak it was impossible to make out anything that was said through the noise.
 

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Thanks for adding Ellis County to the feed. I have cousins out there who no longer have an operational scanner, so this will help them. Just an FYI, Life Star no longer uses the UHF repeaters to tone out their helicopter crews. Everything is now on KSICS (1665-East/Lawrence Base and 1666-West/Junction City Base). Might be worth deleting those unused UHF frequencies unless you feel the need keep those plugged in.
 

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Hello Kansas!
I'm not the one to listen to online feeds but I brought this one up as I ran across this thread and the discussion.

Some observations:

There seems to be the perfect amount of talkgroups/channels being streamed for the amount of talking they do. Trimming it down to fewer areas as the one guy feels is necessary would make a very boring feed. (There was a significant amount of dead-air time already with the feed the way it is now over the 15 minutes that I listened to it.)

That said, the feed is overmodulated. Too loud causing distorted audio.
There is one analog fire dispatch on the feed that is so weak it was impossible to make out anything that was said through the noise.


Thats exactly it, most times its pretty slow. Coming from Jersey City NJ & NY capital areas - I know slow. Now, it can be hectic during severe weather but I can still follow along. If I can, most others can also. During the severe weather I trim it down to core monitoring, otherwise I'll run the full list.

I have listened to the feed multiple times online & have not noticed this EXCEPT when the local law enforcement uses their transmitter to broadcast. The repeaters & mobiles don't distort but the transmitter from the office does. I'm trying different ways to mitigate this. I also checked the input levels & knocked them down to 66-75%.

Thank you!
 

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Thanks for adding Ellis County to the feed. I have cousins out there who no longer have an operational scanner, so this will help them. Just an FYI, Life Star no longer uses the UHF repeaters to tone out their helicopter crews. Everything is now on KSICS (1665-East/Lawrence Base and 1666-West/Junction City Base). Might be worth deleting those unused UHF frequencies unless you feel the need keep those plugged in.

I wondered about that. I never thought I would hear them using it unless I got some late night or dusk/dawn skip action. I will pull them, I did have their KSICS TGs monitored already. Ellis has some strong signals & is more active than most of the counties around me. So you're welcome & thank you!
 

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Occasionally I'll even pull the Hays talk groups down here in Hutch, but it's few and far between


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Back of set antenna. I live right in the middle of Downtown Hutchinson, right next to the Amtrak station. I pull in Troop C and E on occasion. I think I've even gotten some Troop D mixed in.


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Back of set antenna. I live right in the middle of Downtown Hutchinson, right next to the Amtrak station. I pull in Troop C and E on occasion. I think I've even gotten some Troop D mixed in.


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No crap?! Not the default/original whip, must be an upgrade! What kinda rig you running?
 

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No crap?! Not the default/original whip, must be an upgrade! What kinda rig you running?


I have a Pro-652 and a 106 with the same channel layout. No antenna upgrade on the 652, however I do have the RS 800 ducky on the 106. I think a lot of my traffic I get from there has to do with when I have someone from that area down at KLETC, which is about 10 miles southeast of town.



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I have a Pro-652 and a 106 with the same channel layout. No antenna upgrade on the 652, however I do have the RS 800 ducky on the 106. I think a lot of my traffic I get from there has to do with when I have someone from that area down at KLETC, which is about 10 miles southeast of town.

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That could be, they are a large dept by local standards. That RS 800 really has sweet gain for the price. I have one myself & use it when I'm just monitoring that upper range.
 

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No crap?! Not the default/original whip, must be an upgrade! What kinda rig you running?

P25 doesn't work like that. He's not picking it up directly and it's not skipping (UHF doesn't skip), it's being fed down there by the system. If someone from Hays is driving down to Wichita and has their radio on, they will drag all the Hays traffic onto each tower along the way as they connect to it. There's a delay that will keep the traffic coming through after the client disconnects - I think like an hour or so - but after that it stops repeating the traffic until it sees another radio registered with that TG. That's why it's sporadic for him. You can program control channels for other towers within your range and you'll get traffic off those, but given the large undulating elevation between here and Hutch, it's pretty much impossible to get line of sight from here to there regardless of the antenna and receiver. It's the same reason you don't see much Ellis Co KSICS traffic. Your tower isn't simulcasting Ellis by default, it will only do so if someone from Ellis gets close enough to register on it.
 
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