New Scanner Rumor?

[ecps92]

..or "Just because it's on the internet doesn't make it true!"

 

[KK4JUG]

Or it is Joe leaking it 🤣. Not for nothing it has happened before Maybe finally the HP3 and SDS 500 are coming soon to a theater near you.

And maybe my aunt is really my uncle because she has a mustache. No, wait! Never mind. In this day and age, that's possible now.

 

[pinballwiz86]

There are a lot of hardware improvements to be made on the SDS100 and SDS200 product line. These devices, while great; are clearly first generation simulcast trunk scanners.

I wouldn't doubt that Uniden is actively working on version 2.0 simulcast scanners right now, but thanks to the ongoing economic climate in USA; I am sure the production plans are on an indefinite hold. Hopefully they are working on the software in the meantime..

 

[dmfalk]

FYI, TETRA and MPT-1327 are scannable, but not trunk-trackable, and still prone to the same problems with scanning as with any other system. The usual solution for both is, as in the case for HP/SDS series scanners, to create a favourites list with all the known frequencies in a given system, then let'er scan! Some of these may be digital, but using common digital systems like P25, DMR or NXDN, but not their trunking systems. Some are even encrypted. Most, however, are pure analogue, though.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

FYI, TETRA and MPT-1327 are scannable, but not trunk-trackable, and still prone to the same problems with scanning as with any other system. The usual solution for both is, as in the case for HP/SDS series scanners, to create a favourites list with all the known frequencies in a given system, then let'er scan!

Neither the HPs nor SDS's will decode Tetra PERIOD, even when scanned conventionally

 

[werinshades]

FYI, TETRA and MPT-1327 are scannable, but not trunk-trackable,

Doesn't AOR manufacture scanners that can trunk track these systems? Wasn't it not too long ago that some of the RR "Experts" posting that DMR/Cap+/NXDN couldn't be added to any scanners and that no public safety is on these bands, just taxi cabs and school buses? I suspect it could be, but due to the low amount of systems in use is the main reason behind not offering the paid upgrade. You could take the numerous useless features off these scanners and make plenty of room in the CPU in my opinion.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Doesn't AOR manufacture scanners that can trunk track these systems?

Yeah the AR-DV1 and DV10 can scan Tetra conventionally but you have to pay to activate Tetra trunking capabilities

 

[werinshades]

Yeah the AR-DV1 and DV10 can scan them conventionally but you have to pay to activate trunking capabilities

Posting they can't be trunk tracked is not accurate then. If a listener has a TETRA system they'd like to monitor that's in the clear, might be a beneficial paid upgrade to them.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Saying they can't be trunk tracked is not accurate then. If a listener has a TETRA system they'd like to monitor that's in the clear, might be a beneficial paid upgrade to them.

I didn't say that can't be trunk tracked, the poster before me did. There's also a Tetra trunk tracker plugin for SDR#. Looks like SDRTrunk can trunk track MPT-1327 but I don't have any systems around me to confirm

FYI, TETRA and MPT-1327 are scannable, but not trunk-trackable,

 

[werinshades]

I didn't say that can't be trunk tracked, the poster before me did. There's also a Tetra trunk tracker plugin for SDR#

I know, trying to cover both in one response.

FYI, TETRA and MPT-1327 are scannable, but not trunk-trackable,

Looks like someone was working on this based on this database submission. Being trunk tracked:

Chicago O'Hare Airport TETRA Trunking System, Chicago, Illinois

Chicago O'Hare Airport TETRA Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[kc2asb]

Posting they can't be trunk tracked is not accurate then. If a listener has a TETRA system they'd like to monitor that's in the clear, might be a beneficial paid upgrade to them.

I think he meant not trunk-trackable by the HP/SDS scanners.

 

[UTE-GE]

Just curious -- what does anyone think could be possibly added to the SDS100.

I've had my 100 since they hit the market. It goes everywhere with me and my 2yr old 200 stays home.

My only WISH for the 100 is they did away with the usb-mini b. Dang, that thing is a pain in the keister! Not sure why, but when I connect the GPS to it, it never seems to get a good contact.
I have to wiggle it around and usually take the excess cord and wind it snug.

I missed out on the aftermarket GPS from a few years back.

 

[phask]

Most likely, adding a toaster.

 

[dave3825]

Heard from a very reliable source that the new model will have a 5G connection to utilize advanced AI. When it realizes its not doing something properly, it will go online to seek the solution and auto adjust itself.

Should really cut down on the “nothing to scan” threads.

 

[kc2asb]

Heard from a very reliable source that the new model will have a 5G connection to utilize advanced AI. When it realizes its not doing something properly, it will go online to seek the solution and auto adjust itself.

Should really cut down on the “nothing to scan” threads.

It will decide what you want to scan.

 

[KK4JUG]

It will decide what you want to scan.

...and will shut the scanner down when it decides you've had too much screen time.

 

[Bearded_Schnauzer]

They could make the SDS100 more robust.

Add MDC1200, DTMF, and FleetSync call lists/alias lists.

 

[Hit_Factor]

... , but thanks to the ongoing economic climate in USA; I am sure the production plans are on an indefinite hold. Hopefully they are working on the software in the meantime...

Are you a uniden spokesman? Is this your political view?

 

[dmfalk]

FWIW, I based my info on RadioReference's own wiki entries, although in the case of TETRA, this was from an older reading, before the AOR scanners, and off earlier information that the original implementation of TETRA was a 4-slot TDMA analogue system, now mostly digital, though some scanner enthusiasts overseas have reported receiving unencrypted digital TETRA frequencies via one of the supported digital modes, and previously able to copy the older analogue channels, but it still remains true that no commercial scanner can trunktrack TETRA. MPT-1327 is an older trunking system, and is primarily analogue. Here in California, Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) uses it in most of their markets. The voice portion is receivable, but again, not trunk-trackable.

The current pages for both are:

MPT-1327 - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

TETRA - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

And for PG&E:

Pacific Gas and Electric (PGE) Trunking System, Various, California

Pacific Gas and Electric (PGE) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

Digital is not always trunking, nor is trunking always digital.

I wash my hands of this.

 

[buddrousa]

And you cry about the SDS Cost but PRAISE the AOR $1600 Plus Price tag that does not even track P25 Phase 2.