flycrazy
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and i see on my preprogrammed channels the TGID is letters and numbers how do i put letter in on scanner with only numbers
New to scanner hobby please help
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flycrazy
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with this video on you tube this is me today trying to program..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwAwFxE8J9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwAwFxE8J9I
captclint
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Aside from getting a headache watching you bounce around, you are basically ignoring the advice I have given.
1. I said: Do not enter TGID's, and yet you insist on it, and then wonder about letters and numbers. Your system only has numbers, so why are you worrying about it? Entering them will NOT help you receive them any better..
2. When you get to the system menu, you are confused when it asks for what type of Moto system. The online instructions say..select Motorola, which I believe means you do not have to select the type if you have analog and digital. but if it does, select Motorola again.
As for the fact you are 1 hour from guelph, that is a big problem. Since I have no idea where you are, you should look at all the site locations (not the Talkgroups for Minto) and see if one of them is closer. This is exactly why I did not want you to mess with TGID's. You need to find out if you can even receive anything first. If you can't find a site closer, you may need to consider an external antenna. The short rubber duck will not work beyond 10-20 miles under most conditions for frequencies in your system..However, 60 miles is probably too far for even an external antenna.
One thing you can try is to program 142.6200 in any of your conventional systems groups. You should be able to hear digital static, if you are able to receive it at all. If you do, then you know you should be able to hear them in the trunking system you set up.
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flycrazy
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i dont see Motorola i go
new system then i get
conventional
MOT dose this mean Motorola?
EDCS
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but say MOT is Motorola then next thing it says is
p25
800mhz standard
800mhz splinter
900mhz band
vhf band
uhf band
800mhz custom
and yes i get digital noise and this is what i am trying to program
Bell FleetNet - Ontario Provincial Government Zone 1
8880 22b D OPP 1MTFOR Mount Forest - 1MT FOREST Law Talk
8384 20c D OPP 1OPS12 Perth County 6N - 1OPS12 Law Dispatch
8304 207 D OPP 1OPS07 Huron County 6G - 1OPS07 Law Dispatch
8416 20e D OPP 1OPS14 Wellington County 6T - 1OPS14 Law Dispatch
new system then i get
conventional
MOT dose this mean Motorola?
EDCS
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but say MOT is Motorola then next thing it says is
p25
800mhz standard
800mhz splinter
900mhz band
vhf band
uhf band
800mhz custom
and yes i get digital noise and this is what i am trying to program
Bell FleetNet - Ontario Provincial Government Zone 1
8880 22b D OPP 1MTFOR Mount Forest - 1MT FOREST Law Talk
8384 20c D OPP 1OPS12 Perth County 6N - 1OPS12 Law Dispatch
8304 207 D OPP 1OPS07 Huron County 6G - 1OPS07 Law Dispatch
8416 20e D OPP 1OPS14 Wellington County 6T - 1OPS14 Law Dispatch
N8IAA
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Why not go here: https://radioreference.com/ontario/
You can get help from those who live near you.
Larry
You can get help from those who live near you.
Larry
captclint
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Yes, Mot is Motorola, so Select MOT and then skip over the type of system to the frequencies. I am not a digital expert, but you may need to select VHF band, Try it both ways. The guys from your area will definitively know the answer. You say you get static, so I assume this is when you programmed 142.6200 in a conventional system. That is good, so it should work if you program the trunking system for Wellington. DO NOT try to program those talk groups. Stay in IDsearch and just see what you can hear. It nothing, then do as Larry says and go to Ontario group. Be sure to say where you are, and maybe they can explain why you are able to get the digital noise 60 miles away. They should be able to figure out whether you have set up your system correctly, and if you should be able to receive the talk groups you listed above.
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captclint
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I wandered over to the Ontario forum, and I found this:
http://forums.radioreference.com/on...ner-bell-mobility-radios-fleetnet-system.html
It is a lot more complicated.than I imagined. You do have to select VHF, and you have to change the band plan. I would definitely ask to be sure this instruction, posted in 2006, is still valid. Shame on me. I should have guessed that a system this big would have a lot of info in the Ont. forum. Larry..thanks
http://forums.radioreference.com/on...ner-bell-mobility-radios-fleetnet-system.html
It is a lot more complicated.than I imagined. You do have to select VHF, and you have to change the band plan. I would definitely ask to be sure this instruction, posted in 2006, is still valid. Shame on me. I should have guessed that a system this big would have a lot of info in the Ont. forum. Larry..thanks
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flycrazy
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whoo hooo i got it sweet ty everyone
wtp
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it seems
he got it to work, and is now playing around and learning !!!
i have found some folks learn with just a little push and then let them play.
that was all he neede. once you hear something, you can play, but if you have a brick/paperweight you loose hope.
he got it to work, and is now playing around and learning !!!
i have found some folks learn with just a little push and then let them play.
that was all he neede. once you hear something, you can play, but if you have a brick/paperweight you loose hope.
flycrazy
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thanks again WTP have a question i had some DEC numbers pop up today and when i went to look up whos keying in them numbers wrent on my list how do i find out whos talking in this case
captclint
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You could ask in the Ontario forum, but chances are high that they are new and no one has ID'd them. This is really the fun and challenge of scanning. You need to listen carefully for clues about type of service(PD, FD, EMS etc), and their location. It will take some time and effort, but when you ID them, you can add them to the database so others won't have to go through this process.
flycrazy
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2 more questons sorry guys .... so ya i got the scanner all working and been working great for 2 days now but as of lastnight i was getting good reseption now i get none why is this way 1 day in same spot i get great listening next day nothing ......my next question is whats a great handheld antanna and whats a great house antanna
captclint
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Often, you accidentally locked out one or more systems. Look to be sure it is really scanning all systems, and just in case, turn the scanner off/on to erase all temp lockouts. Otherwise, can't think of too many things that would affect VHF reception so dramatically. Do try in different locations in the house, esp higher ones.
As for antenna, I like the Radio shack VHF/UHF but their online site is off the air for now. Go over to Antennas and Associated Hardware - The RadioReference.com Forums Since most of your listening is VHF, I would say the antenna that came with the 396 is as good for VHF as any others, but the folks on teh antenna forum may have some other suggestions.
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flycrazy
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ya different spots in my house work but like in middle of livingroom in mid air lol but i got it to work again i had to lift scanner about 2 feet higher then it was yesterday
wtp
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sounds like me in the back yard
that is how i have to try and hear one county south of me.
next will be aluminium foil on the antenna.
check and make sure all systems/groups are scanning.
the T model does not do the power cycle reset thing.
if you do happen to find a store for amateur radio
pick up a 2 meter, 144 to 148 mhz, or is it metre there, antenna. or a 150 mhz business antenna.
they might help as the stuff you want is in the 140 area.
the next thing is an outside antenna and the some goes for that.
see if you could return it if it does not help.
that is how i have to try and hear one county south of me.
next will be aluminium foil on the antenna.
check and make sure all systems/groups are scanning.
the T model does not do the power cycle reset thing.
if you do happen to find a store for amateur radio
pick up a 2 meter, 144 to 148 mhz, or is it metre there, antenna. or a 150 mhz business antenna.
they might help as the stuff you want is in the 140 area.
the next thing is an outside antenna and the some goes for that.
see if you could return it if it does not help.
flycrazy
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hi everyone i am back and have a question i havent use my scanner in some time i reprogrammed it and i know i did it right but i am getting nothing now did something change in the last year that it dont work know more
captclint
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A quick check for all the weather channels should tell you if there is a problem with the antenna. You should probably hear half of the official weather channels. One should be strong, and the others weaker. Antenna and the connection to the scanner is the most likely thing that would kill your reception on all channels. Depending on your location vs towers, you might only get one, but you should get at least one.
flycrazy
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ok just to make sure i remember right i reset the scanner then so i went menu,program system,new system,MOT,P25,set freqs,new freqs, in entered mt bell fleetnet zone 1 for listowel/perth so first i put the control 142.320c then add new freqs then put the alt freq with is 142.230a then ether auto or NFM then press scan it pops up NFM and then when i go out side i get a blanking single bar 1 ot 2 lines bit the NFM never clicks in the the control freqs just stays NFM and it use to work fine i dont get why i not hearing nothing know moew am i programming it wrong or i know the antenna been moded to let you put different ones on but that was the same as be4 to oh this is a uniden BCD396T TRUNK TRACKER 4
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