New TRS & lots of info, Morgan County WV

[smwincva]

I went to the FCC website for Morgan County frequencies to see what what was cancelled and what was still in use. To my surprise, I found that each block of frequencies is still active. But generally, all the older blocks have only one transmitter left active (most often the one in Largent WV). I found several new blocks of frequencies, and have indentified one new (but small) TRS.

I am about 25 miles (and up to 40 miles) away from the transmitters, with the scanner on a south facing window (even though the area is northwest of me). I have only discernable radio traffic from the new TRS, Morgan Fire Dispatch (155.145, Base-Mobile) and have ID'd the freq for Morgan Co Sherriff. The Sheriff's Office primary freq is 154.0025 and is repeated.

For the TRS's, I put each freq in as conventional, yet only get transmissions for the one I listed below.

I propose all unindentified freqs should be deleted from the couny's database page, and all the cancelled licenses also be deleted from RR.

Since I can't get reception, perhaps some of you in the panhandle of WV & western MD check this data & see if you can pick out anything I couldn't recieve.

On the bottom of the page I listed several freqs as possible forestry use..... These were issued for local use and some of those freqs seem to overlap with those already issued.

On the 220 mhz system, I was getting occasional birdies. After a week of no transmissions, I started moving other freqs onto those freqs so I could try to figure the second LCN of the new TRS. I also noticed the FCC has not been notified that the 220mhz system is in use yet.

So here is my complitation. Abbreviations include:

TX: Transmitter location
freq: frequency

I also noted last FCC action, and freqs that are not listed on Morgan County's main RR page are listed as *NEW*.

Licenses are for Morgan County WV unless otherwise noted.
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WPRX443 *NEW* town of Paw Paw
buildout notification 11/07/05

LTR TRS

LCN confirm
ch 2 856.9625

unconfirmed LCN
857. 9625

transmitters in
Whitacre VA & Martinsburg WV

ID'd talkgroups

0-02-045 Paw Paw PD
0-02-049 school transportation, unknown locailty
0-02-060 Paw Paw Fire Dept
0-02-061 Paw Paw VFD alternate TG

[ I have noticed that the Paw Paw FD will mark up with & be acknowledged by Morgan County dispatchers. On occasion, I noticed the same by the Paw Paw PD, and possibly Morgan County Sheriffs units. In addition the second (unconfirmed) LCN seems to be only active weekday daytime until about 3:30pm. ]

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WZG266
renewed 8/17/04
Paw Paw PD
37.28 (This is a common WV police freq.)
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KGV267
granted 12/19/05
Paw Paw VFD
46.14
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KSJ487
Great Cacapon VFD
33.50
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WQCD315
Granted 2/03/05
Construct reminder 11/07/05
auto temination letter 3/05/06 (Berkeley Springs)

active 06/02/06 (Largent)

listed as repeated freqs:
453.2125 453.3375 453.4625
453.7125 453.8625
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WPTA337
Sideling Hill, Paw Paw, cancelled 9/25/05

WPTA421
Largent, notification 9/25/05

LTR TRS

856.2125 857.2125 858.2125
859.2125 860.2125
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WPTC438
tx Clear Spring MD cancelled 9/29/05
WPTD394
tx Berkeley Springs cancelled 9/29/05
WPTE884
tx Sideling Hill Paw Paw cancelled 9/29/05

WPTE554 (active)
tx Largent notified 9/29/05

(original block of freqs used, in base mobile format)

33.02 37.18 151.1075 154.28 155.145
155.34 154.475 155.975
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WPTF842
tx Paw Paw, cancelled 9/29/05
WPTF861
tx Clear Spring MD, cancelled 9/29/05

WPTG353 (Active)
tx Largent, notification 9/28/05

154.0025 (primary freq for sherriff's office & repeated)

(listed as repeated
154.0625 154.0625 154.2225
154.1825 158.7075
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KNJL497
tx Berkeley Springs, renewed 3/05
155.145

(Primary FD dispatch channel in base-mobile format.)
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KQK497
tx in Berkeley Springs & Largent
notification 11/13/06

45.28
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KWV595
tx Berkeley Springs, admin update 11/12/02

37.18 37.28
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WNEB845
tx Berkeley Springs, renewed 5/02/03

S Morgan VFD
154.43
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WNZC286

admin update 11-12-02

(4 watt portables)

453.925
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WPSD704
tx Fairview Mnt, Washington Co MD

This is a apparently a modified version of the system used by WPTA421. Several frequencies were deleted on 10/21/05. Last FCC action, notification on 10-04-06. Note tx ERP is listed as 500 watts.

859.2125 860.2125
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WPSE409
tx Paw Paw, cancelled 9/25/05
WPSE800
tx Berkeley Springs, cancelled 10/03/06
WPSI483
tx Fairview Mnt, Washington Co MD, cancelled 9/25/05

WPSE394
tx Largent, notification 9/25/05 (active)

all med channels and
WVU Medcom, 155.34
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WPYK343
Notification 1/31/06
2 watt portables

173.2375 173.2625 173.2875
173.2875 173.3125 173.3625
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WQEY589 Largent WV (new)
contruct reminder 2/20/07

Listed for mutual aid use.

220.8025 220.8075 220.8125
220.8225 220.8275 220.8375
220.8375 220.8425 220.9025
220.9075 220.9125 220.9175
220.8025
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WQFI383 Berkeley Springs
new 6/30/06

151.1075 153.7625

possible use by forestry service
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WQFI383 Martinsburg
admended 7/26/06

154.0025 155.7075

possible use by forestry service
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WQGI416 *NEW* Paw Paw
new 1-22-07

154.085 154.16

(154.16 is also used by Montgomery Co MD fire. I locked out Montgomery's DPL of 156.7.)

possible use by forestry service
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Steve

EDIT; To correct the typo on the primary FD Dispatch channel. It is 155.145.

 

[wm8s]

Great info, esp. for those of us in down the sticks. One question: At the start of your message, you said 154.145 is the primary county FD/EMS dispatch, but I had it as 155.145, and later on you say that, too. Are both in use, or is one a typo? Thanks again.

...R

 

[smwincva]

Yes, I found the typo & corrected it with notation on the first post. I have been working on this county's list for well over a month. I truely hope the info can be used to delete all the unconfirmed & cancelled info on the county's data page.

Steve

 

[Radar412]

Morgan County, WV

Heres the deal on Morgan County's system. They are currently transitioning from an 800 mhz LTR trunked system for Fire and Rescue to a VHF High band conventional system. The Sheriff's Office is already on VHF high. The fire system is configured as follows: (channel plan and freqs below) Fire Channel 1 is a multi-site linked system that multicasts simultaneously for coverage using different Transmit outputs and the same input freq for all. The SO system is configured the same way, same sites. Fire Channel 2 is a single site on VHF linked only to one talkgroup on the LTR system. The OES is standalone VHF. All of the VCALL, VTAC, UCALL, & UTAC frequencies are for interoperability. The system is up and running and most fire and rescue depts are in the process of buying VHF equipment. Additional sites are planned dependent on access and funding. The school board will remain on the 800 LTR system. Hope this answers most of the questions. I'll post the list to the database as well.

RX Frequency Name TX Frequency
155.145 Morg Dispatch / PSAP 155.145
154.1225 Fire Channel 1 Cacapon Mt 156.0675
151.1075 Fire Channel 1 Hospital 156.0675
151.34 Fire Channel 1 No Mtn 156.0675
154.085 Fire Channel 1 Paw Paw 156.0675
33.02 Fire Channel 1 Lowband 33.02
453.3375 Fire Channel 1 UHF 458.3375
856.2125, 857.2125,858.2125 Fire Channel 1 LTR trunked ch 1-1 Cacapon Mtn
859.2125, 860.2125 Fire Channel 1 LTR trunked ch 1-1 Fairview Mtn
154.1825 Fire Channel 2 156.1425
155.7075 OES 156.1875
856.2125, 857.2125,858.2125 Fire Channel 2 LTR trunked ch 1-2 Cacapon Mtn
859.2125, 860.2125 Fire Channel 2 LTR trunked ch 1-2 Fairview Mtn
154.0625 Morgan Co SO & BkSpngs PD Cacapon Mt 156.24
153.7625 Morgan Co SO & BkSpngs PD Hospital 156.24
154.0025 Morgan Co SO & BkSpngs PD No Mtn 156.24
154.16 Morgan Co SO & BkSpngs PD Paw Paw 156.24
154.28 Mutual Aid/METRO for Fire & Rescue 154.28
155.475 National Law Enfrcmnt Emerg Frequency 155.475

155.7525 VCALL Interjurisdictional Interoperability 155.7525
151.1375 VTAC 1 Interjurisdictional Interoperability 151.1375
154.4525 VTAC 2 Interjurisdictional Interoperability 154.4525
158.7375 VTAC 3 Interjurisdictional Interoperability 158.7375
159.4725 VTAC 4 Interjurisdictional Interoperability 159.4725

453.2125 UCALL Interjurisdictional Interoperability 458.2125
453.4625 UTAC 1 Interjurisdictional Interoperability 458.4625
453.7125 UTAC 2 Interjurisdictional Interoperability 458.7125
453.8625 UTAC 3 Interjurisdictional Interoperability 458.8625

 

[mike_s104]

are they going to go to the WV Interoperability system? how will the state handle it?

 

[Radar412]

Morgan County

No plans to move to the WV UHF system. Interoperability with it will be overcome by linking in the primary assigned Morgan Co talkgroups to Fire 1 and SO 1 respectively.

 

[Radar412]

Morgan County

I sent an the information I posted on how the system is setup into the database. Does anyone know how long it should take to be updated?

 

[mike_s104]

I sent an the information I posted on how the system is setup into the database. Does anyone know how long it should take to be updated?

I've submitted info and saw it posted the same day. I've also submitted info and it's been over a year and have yet to see it posted.

 

[smwincva]

I'm not a database amin, but they *might* want the license info too. (I posted the license info in my first post in this thread. But of course I only had limited info who actually used the freqs.)

BTW database amin, _all_ of freqs listed in the main group of Morgan County are listed as cancelled on the database page. The freqs are likely correct, but need the new license ids I provided in the original post.

Steve

 

[mike_s104]

I'm not a database amin, but they *might* want the license info too. (I posted the license info in my first post in this thread. But of course I only had limited info who actually used the freqs.)

BTW database amin, _all_ of freqs listed in the main group of Morgan County are listed as cancelled on the database page. The freqs are likely correct, but need the new license ids I provided in the original post.

Steve

sometimes I add the license info and others not. of course, on fed freqs there won't be any license info.

 

[wm8s]

No plans to move to the WV UHF system. Interoperability with it will be overcome by linking in the primary assigned Morgan Co talkgroups to Fire 1 and SO 1 respectively.

I heard the IRP radio techs many months ago discussing speaking with Morgan Co's OES director, who had acquired 6 UHF pairs. I assume since they were discussing it, Morgan Co was considering joining the system.

This license:

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/ApplicationSearch/applMain.jsp?applID=4217899

was recently granted with six pairs:

000453.37500000 1 1 1 FB8 1 35.000 35.000
000453.87500000 1 1 2 FB8 1 35.000 35.000
000460.40000000 1 1 3 FB8 1 25.000 25.000
000460.50000000 1 1 4 FB8 1 35.000 35.000
000453.90000000 1 1 5 FB8 1 30.000 30.000
000453.32500000 1 1 6 FB8 1 35.000 35.000

Anyone know if this system will be part of the IRP?