NHSP Troop E

[LPD7]

Anyone have a License for NHSP Troop E, up in Tamworth. 151.3250/159.3150 I cant locate a VALID license anywhere for it. If you run it in the FCC Site, you get licenses back but the dates are from 1996, when the Statewide P25 system was implemented. The Locations of the transmitters are all from Strafford and Rockingham Counties, meaning that would be impossible. I'm pretty sure it would be transmitted in 2 or 3 Sites in Carroll County and 2 or 3 Sites in Belknap County, but I have found nothing to that effect. Any help would be appreciated. Also Troop E has started to use Encryption on Certain Comms.

By the way I have Finally located a License on Troop F, they have Several Transmitting sites that’s why you can only hear Some ops depending on where you are, its a different set up, but is necessary for their public safety operations.

 

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Troop E

Anyone have a License for NHSP Troop E, up in Tamworth. 151.3250/159.3150 I cant locate a VALID license anywhere for it. If you run it in the FCC Site, you get licenses back but the dates are from 1996, when the Statewide P25 system was implemented. The Locations of the transmitters are all from Strafford and Rockingham Counties, meaning that would be impossible. I'm pretty sure it would be transmitted in 2 or 3 Sites in Carroll County and 2 or 3 Sites in Belknap County, but I have found nothing to that effect. Any help would be appreciated. Also Troop E has started to use Encryption on Certain Comms.

By the way I have Finally located a License on Troop F, they have Several Transmitting sites that’s why you can only hear Some ops depending on where you are, its a different set up, but is necessary for their public safety operations.

NHSP Troop E transmits from a single location, the DRED antenna complex atop Mount Whittier.

As I have stated before, niether Troop E or A transmits encrypted...neither site has the necessary equipment to do so, the same with the units in the field. However both sites do utilize 9600 baud data that allow installed units to access SPOTS from the field in their CAR 54 equipped cruisers. Since there are no scanners currently on the market that can discriminate and block data transmissions, the ensuing digital hash is often confused with voice traffice.

I have confirmed this on a number of occasions by dual monitoring both A & E with both a Pro-2096 & Uniden BC-796 alongside a Motorola XTS-2500 portable.

 

[dic]

Plxnbury

I am curious, how much did you pay for the XTS 2500 and how exactly does it work?
Is it a NH SP radio, or is it a generic Motorola radio that you program the known frequencies into (like a scanner).

Thanks
Dic

 

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XTS-2500 portable

Plxnbury

I am curious, how much did you pay for the XTS 2500 and how exactly does it work?
Is it a NH SP radio, or is it a generic Motorola radio that you program the known frequencies into (like a scanner).

Thanks
Dic

This is a State bid Motorola ASTRO VHF P25 portable, programmed with the State template.

This particular model with its installed option package runs just under $3000, and I have the capability to program it myself.

ICOM is offering a promotion where they will sell you a P25 VHF mobile or portable in the $900 range if you trade in an old 2-way radio. Thiese radios, when programmed with the appropriate system NAC, will discriminate against data and allow you to filter out unwanted analog and other digital co-channel users.

GRE is introducing a scanner this month that will also allow you to program the system NAC, but I do not know if it will block out data over voice. When I get my hands on one, hopefully soon, I will let you know if it does....

 

[LPD7]

Mt Whittier, in Tamworth, wow that covers all they way up to Jackson....Also, On Troop E, i herd what sounded like Encrypted Traffic then the Dispatcher Replied "10-5" same thing with Troop A, I'm pretty sure all NHSP Freqs have the possibility for Encrypted Transmissions

 

[Ianscape]

The Mt Whittier tower is actually located in Ossipee. NHSP has a "Talk" frequency that generally you will hear the dispatcher reply to, and not hear the cars talking. You can generally hear the units call to each other to "switch to talk". It's kinda similar to the Digital4 that Carroll County has.

 

[LPD7]

The Mt Whittier tower is actually located in Ossipee. NHSP has a "Talk" frequency that generally you will hear the dispatcher reply to, and not hear the cars talking. You can generally hear the units call to each other to "switch to talk". It's kinda similar to the Digital4 that Carroll County has.

Carroll County has more than One Police Freq, or is it Just Direct (Simplex) All i know of is 154.8600 P25/136.5.

Also all The Portable's NHSP Has have the Ability to go Encrypted, and i dont belive teh Repeater has anything to do with ENC

 

[Ianscape]

We have 2 freq's. 154.8600 covers the following repeaters

Thompson
Faraway
Oak
And soon to be "Bartlett"

The Bartlett repeater is not licensed yet, but is "in service"...just waiting for the paperwork to hang on the wall.


The "Digital 4" is a separate freq, I'll see if we have the documentation in the office for the actual freq.

 

[LPD7]

Moultonborough, Madision and Wolfeboro Right? and are Bartlett and Jackson PD's Dispatched by Carrol?

 

[Ianscape]

Moultonborough, Madision and Wolfeboro Right? and are Bartlett and Jackson PD's Dispatched by Carrol?

Madison, Bartlett, and Jackson are ours. Wolfeboro is on their own, Moultonboro is NHSP E at night. Althought Moultonboro may hire night dispatchers as it looks like Troop E is phasing out their midnight dispatch and will go to being dispatched by NHSP HQ.

 

[SCPD]

Encrypted portables and consoles

Carroll County has more than One Police Freq, or is it Just Direct (Simplex) All i know of is 154.8600 P25/136.5.

Also all The Portable's NHSP Has have the Ability to go Encrypted, and i dont belive teh Repeater has anything to do with ENC

That is definitely not correct....someone is giving you bad information.

Not intending to be rude, but for the final time, the necessary hardware (encryption cards for the applicable DIUs) are not installed at either location you mention, making it impossible for the console to either dispatch or receive encrypted P25 communications.

 

[LPD7]

Madison, Bartlett, and Jackson are ours. Wolfeboro is on their own, Moultonboro is NHSP E at night. Althought Moultonboro may hire night dispatchers as it looks like Troop E is phasing out their midnight dispatch and will go to being dispatched by NHSP HQ.

Will Sandwich and Waikfield be affected by this besause they are both Dispatched by NHSP E 24/7

 

[tbone9597]

NHSP Dispatch Centers

I have a friend who is the third shift Super for NHSP troop D/HQ. She told me that when contruction on the new Dispatch Center is complete that all of the dispatch operations will be done in Concord because they will have 12-16 dispatchers working. I don't know if they will need that many dispatchers on third shift working. Just wanted to share the info.

 

[LPD7]

Its also Starting to sound like Troop E, Troop A, Troop D, and Troop B use the MDT's and Transmit the Dat over their Frequencies, I know Troop E and A have been doing it, but it seems to be Spreading out

 

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NHSP & MDTs

Its also Starting to sound like Troop E, Troop A, Troop D, and Troop B use the MDT's and Transmit the Dat over their Frequencies, I know Troop E and A have been doing it, but it seems to be Spreading out

You're observation is correct, eventually it will spread to all troops. It will also be of importance when all dispatch functions are transferred to Concord. Hopefully GREs new line of scanners will be able to discriminate against data when they offer their new kine with NAC capabilities.

 

[LPD7]

Yeah i herd about the State Wide system, i guess it is more efficent, but I belive they will still have the capabilities to dispatch the Small Towns on the LP Frequencies. The onld downpart is that there will be no one in the Barracks for the Troopers to see, except HQ

 

[NEK1213]

Sounds like the 70's. The only NHSP dispatch centers open 24/7 were HQ Concord & Troop F. HQ dispatched all troops with the exception of "F" between 1600 Hrs and 0800 Hrs or so during the week days. HQ could communicate with "F" or their units and others over Mt Washington on 45.26 or 155.910. It used to be a bit heck tick at times.

 

[LPD7]

Is this Dispatcher Switch going to be 24/7 or Just at night?

 

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24-7

Is this Dispatcher Switch going to be 24/7 or Just at night?

My understanding is eventually all dispatching will take place in Concord.

Also, the local dispatching taking place on the LP channels can easily be handled from Concord, as all the LP sites are integrated into the statewide LAWNET system, along with the troop transmitters. All that will be necessary is to transfer the local phone exchange numbers to Concord. The 911 calls can easily be transferred to any dispatch location already.

 

[Ianscape]

E's will be just the midnight dispatcher for now, then supposedly the other shifts will switch over to HQ.

911 and phones are easy to switch, so the public won't really notice a difference.

Mostly the local agency's will notice the difference because HQ will generally not filter calls, so the locals that were dispatched by the local Troops may see an increase in calls that would have normally been referred to other agencies, or organizations, or dumped.

Also in the beginning frustration with someone at HQ who may not know the area will come up...the same thing we currently have to deal with Concord/Laconia 911. But thats to be expected.

So far we are pondering if we are going to end up taking on Wakefield at the SO.