Niagara Region MPT1327 Trunks

[mbstone99]

I have been playing around with Unitracker and some of the MPT1327 trunks down in the Haldimand and Niagara Region. So far I have stumbled across 5 MPT1327 systems. I believe all but one belong to Maxtel Wirelss.

420.9000 Maxtel Wireless - System ID 20633 - Fonthill
420.0250 Maxtel Wireless - System ID 20657 - Caledonia
420.3750 Maxtel Wireless - System ID 20659 - Thorold
420.8000 Maxtel Wireless - System ID 20625 - Niagara Falls

420.2500 Unknown - System ID 1417 - Unknown

The last one (System ID 1417) I have no idea where it is located or who belongs to it. The system ID is totally different from the 4 Maxtel Wirelss MPT1327's I found. The control channel for that one is not listed in the TAFL either. Steve St Dennis is you read this maybe you have a clue who this one belongs to? The signal strength for this unknown one on my outside mag mount is about the same if not lower then the one in the Falls.

Matt

 

[firefgtr]

yes Niagara Falls Fire Dept uses maxtel radio system, how did you find the system IDs?? I was tring to figrue out how the MPT1327 system worked.....

 

[mbstone99]

Ya I know they are on them as well as Canada Customs and the Fallsview Hotel. I am using Unitrunker with just a sound card input. The system ID shows up in the program when it tracks the system. So far on the Fonthill site I have come up with 6018, 6019, 6021 & 6022 for tg ids.

Matt

 

[Saint]

Re-MPT Systems in Niagara Region

I have been playing around with Unitracker and some of the MPT1327 trunks down in the Haldimand and Niagara Region. So far I have stumbled across 5 MPT1327 systems. I believe all but one belong to Maxtel Wirelss.

420.9000 Maxtel Wireless - System ID 20633 - Fonthill
420.0250 Maxtel Wireless - System ID 20657 - Caledonia
420.3750 Maxtel Wireless - System ID 20659 - Thorold
420.8000 Maxtel Wireless - System ID 20625 - Niagara Falls

420.2500 Unknown - System ID 1417 - Unknown

The last one (System ID 1417) I have no idea where it is located or who belongs to it. The system ID is totally different from the 4 Maxtel Wirelss MPT1327's I found. The control channel for that one is not listed in the TAFL either. Steve St Dennis is you read this maybe you have a clue who this one belongs to? The signal strength for this unknown one on my outside mag mount is about the same if not lower then the one in the Falls.

Matt

Hi Matt, This is what I have for the last couple of years of listening to these Systems and the frequencies, if this is of some help to you, I have not used any computer software to listen to the control channels, but I do pick up all of them in Fort Erie.
420.0250 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Control Channel Niag. Reg.
420.0500 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Niag. Reg.
420.0625 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Customs/Renaissance Fallsview Hotel/Falls Fire Niag. Reg.
420.0750 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Niag. Reg.
420.1250 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Niag. Reg.
420.1500 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Niag. Reg.
420.1625 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Falls Fire Niag. Reg.
420.1750 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Control Channel Niag. Reg.
420.2500 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Niag. Reg.
420.2750 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Fire Falls/Customs/St. Johns Amb. Water Patrol/Renaissance Fallsview Hotel Niag. Reg.
420.3500 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Niag. Reg.
420.3625 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Falls Fire/St. Johns Amb. Water Patrol Niag. Reg.
420.3750 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Control Channel Niag. Reg.
420.4500 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Customs Niag. Reg.
420.4625 Maxtel (Mpt-1327)Customs/Falls Fire/St. Johns Amb. Water Patrol Niag. Reg.
420.5000 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Niag. Reg.
420.5750 Maxtel (Mpt-1327)Falls Fire/St. Johns Amb. Water Patrol Niag. Reg.
420.6000 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Niag. Reg.
420.6750 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Falls Fire/St. Johns Amb. Water Patrol Niag. Reg.
420.7000 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Niag. Reg.
420.7750 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Customs/Falls Fire Niag. Reg.
420.8000 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Control Channel Niag. Reg.
420.8750 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Falls Fire/St. Johns Amb. Water Patrol Niag. Reg.
420.9000 Maxtel (Mpt-1327) Control Channel Niag. Reg.
Steve

 

[Saint]

Re-MPT Systems in Niagara Region

Matt me again, for some reason I have 409.250000 & 420.250000 as part of one of the Maxtel System but when I do a search on these frequencies this information comes up.

409.250000 420.250000 TABLE ROCK IS GEORGIAN BAY ONT Joan Grace Grierson c/o Campbell Grierson
420.250000 409.250000 WESTHAM ISLAND BC TELUS COMMUNICATIONS (BC) Sharon Leigh
420.250000 409.250000 MINAKI ONT Bell Canada, Wireless Mgmt Office Attn: Peter James
420.250000 409.250000 MORSON ONT Bell Canada, Wireless Mgmt Office Attn: Peter James
420.250000 409.250000 ESPANOLA, ON Bell Canada, Wireless Mgmt Office Attn: Peter James
420.250000 409.250000 MONT STE-CECILE ACTION SOLUTIONS SANS FIL INC.
?????
Steve

Control Channel 420.175, verry strong
Control Channel 420.800, little weak but clear signal
Control Channel 420.375, verry weak
That's what I'm picking up in Fort Erie.
Steve

Also there are Maxtel Systems In the 900 mhz band

934.275000 943.275000 THOROLD, ON - HAYES RD.MAXTELL WIRELESS INC
934.575000 943.575000 THOROLD, ON - HAYES RD. MAXTELL WIRELESS INC
934.625000 943.625000 THOROLD, ON - HAYES RD.MAXTELL WIRELESS INC
934.625000 943.625000 THOROLD, ON - HAYES RD. MAXTELL WIRELESS INC
934.675000 943.675000 THOROLD, ON - HAYES RD. MAXTELL WIRELESS INC
943.275000 934.275000 FORT ERIE, ON - WATER TOWER MAXTELL WIRELESS INC
943.575000 934.575000 CALEDONIA, ON MAXTELL WIRELESS INC
943.575000 934.575000 BLOOMSBERG, ON MAXTELL WIRELESS INC
943.625000 934.625000 GRIMSBY RIDGE RD MAXTELL WIRELESS INC
943.625000 934.625000 NIAGARA FALLS 6455 BUCHANNAN ST MAXTELL WIRELESS INC
943.675000 934.675000 QUEENSTON, ON - BRIDGE OFFICE MAXTELL WIRELESS INC
Steve

 

[mbstone99]

Mpt1317

That is strange cause I was picking up a control channel last night on that frequency here but it was weak. Tonight I am picking it up for the same system id on 420.6000 but it's too weak to track it. The conditions must be down right now as the only control channels I hear are 420.9000 in Fonthill and 420.0250 in Caledonia. There is no sign of the control channels in Thorold or the Falls.

Matt

 

[Saint]

Re-MPT Systems in Niagara Region

That is strange cause I was picking up a control channel last night on that frequency here but it was weak. Tonight I am picking it up for the same system id on 420.6000 but it's too weak to track it. The conditions must be down right now as the only control channels I hear are 420.9000 in Fonthill and 420.0250 in Caledonia. There is no sign of the control channels in Thorold or the Falls.

Matt

As you can see I have never picked up anything as of yet on 420.900, or 420.025, no control channel noise of any kind, I'm going to have to start listening to these frequencies tomorrow and see if I can pick up any other control channels, I just downloaded all the Maxtel frequencies and put them into my computer program for my BC250D scanner and will load them into the scanner tomorrow and see if there is anything new I pick up.
Steve

 

[mbstone99]

Mpt1327

As you can see I have never picked up anything as of yet on 420.900, or 420.025, no control channel noise of any kind, I'm going to have to start listening to these frequencies tomorrow and see if I can pick up any other control channels, I just downloaded all the Maxtel frequencies and put them into my computer program for my BC250D scanner and will load them into the scanner tomorrow and see if there is anything new I pick up.
Steve

I have been tracking that MPT1327 on 420.2500/420.6000 and come to the conslusion so far that it is not a Maxtel. The 2 ID's I have come up with are nothing like the ones on the Maxtel one in Fonthill. I did a bit of tracking of the one in Caledonia last night and came up with the same ID's as the one in Fonthill. I am going to let unitracker run for a while longer on this unknown and see what else I can get.

Matt

 

[firefgtr]

just wondering. iam a Niagara Falls firefighter, and i only have 420.0625, 420.275, 420.575 programed, and i get all radio traffic that NFFD as well as Canada Customs and St. John ambulance/Chair-a-Van (Seniors wheel chair van) Iam just curios why i hear all radio traffic? Oh just a FYI, Niagara Falls Fire also runs the St. Johns Ambulance water patrol in the Chippawa Creek/Welland river.

 

[jellotor]

just wondering. iam a Niagara Falls firefighter, and i only have 420.0625, 420.275, 420.575 programed, and i get all radio traffic that NFFD as well as Canada Customs and St. John ambulance/Chair-a-Van (Seniors wheel chair van) Iam just curios why i hear all radio traffic? Oh just a FYI, Niagara Falls Fire also runs the St. Johns Ambulance water patrol in the Chippawa Creek/Welland river.

You have just those frequencies programmed in your scanner or your FD radio?

 

[mbstone99]

Mpt1327

You have just those frequencies programmed in your scanner or your FD radio?

Sounds like he has it programmed into his scanner.

Matt

 

[jellotor]

...that's what it sounds like to me, too. Matt, I know there's a (commercial?) MPT1327 decoder out there somewhere, but how does Unitrunker do with these systems? I haven't messed around with UT too much only because it doesn't control a second scanner yet.

 

[Saint]

Chair-a-Van (Seniors wheel chair van

just wondering. iam a Niagara Falls firefighter, and i only have 420.0625, 420.275, 420.575 programed, and i get all radio traffic that NFFD as well as Canada Customs and St. John ambulance/Chair-a-Van (Seniors wheel chair van) Iam just curios why i hear all radio traffic? Oh just a FYI, Niagara Falls Fire also runs the St. Johns Ambulance water patrol in the Chippawa Creek/Welland river.

Are you sure about this name( Chair-a-Van (Seniors wheel chair van )and if so were are they ?? in Niagara Falls or where, I want to update the list on this web site.
Steve

 

[firefgtr]

yes on my scanner, the fire dept radio only displays talk group 1 through 16

 

[firefgtr]

yes chair-a-van , its run by st. johns ambulance and they are run out of niagara falls

 

[Saint]

Re-chair-a-van

yes chair-a-van , its run by st. johns ambulance and they are run out of niagara falls

Thanks firefgtr, I'll update the information on the web site with your information.
Steve

 

[firefgtr]

right on!!

 

[mbstone99]

Unitrunker

...that's what it sounds like to me, too. Matt, I know there's a (commercial?) MPT1327 decoder out there somewhere, but how does Unitrunker do with these systems? I haven't messed around with UT too much only because it doesn't control a second scanner yet.

It is working quite well actually except there are some hiccups with it. I noticed that there are sometimes especially when the signal is not strong enough it will say there no signal to decode. I have been having problems decoding that system id 1417 trunk for that reason. But on the Maxtel in Caledonia and the one in Fonthill the decode quality is almost at 100%.

Matt

 

[mbstone99]

MPT1327 & Unitrunker

Unforturately Unitrunker does not sure the actually frequency it shows the LCN channel #. I know is you have the right data for the system you can find out what the frequency is by using a calculation. I would be sure as hell interested to see what active frequencies each of these MPT1327's use.

Now according to Unitrunker.. this is the data I have so far for the Maxtel down in Caledonia (control channel is 420.0250).

Base 200475000
Step 125000
LCN's 256, 257, 258, 261

Matt

 

[mbstone99]

Niagara Falls MPT1327

I have been monitoring the Maxtel down in the Falls tonight and goign to let it run overnight and during the day tomorrow. So far here I have come out with 9 frequencies and 5 tg's on this system..

LCN channel numbers 515, 516, 519, 521, 769, 771, 772, 775, 782
TG's 6002, 6018 (which also has showed up on the Caledonia and Fonthill trunks), 292725, 292727 and 292728.

Matt