NJSP Switchover To Digital

[DJ88]

I know the State Police will be switching over to a digital system real soon shortly after the first of the new year, so I have read. I have heard that it will be 3600 baud for all troops, A, B, C, & E. I know I saw a post somewhere here about this, but can't seem to find it.

My questions are: Will it definitely be a 3600 baud system and will the trunked system frequencies remain the same i.e will the changeover simply be from analog to digital using the same frequencies in the system ?

The reason I am asking is because I have a Uniden BC785D that only receives 3600 baud trunked digital systems. Just want to make sure I will still be able to receive them.

Thanks for your help.

 

[RocketNJ]

The 785D without digital card will be adequate for now. While the system is going to a mixed mode system, NJSP does not intend to switch to digital comms anytime soon. Troop B has already switched over to the new system. Troops A & C will be switching sometime in 2005. I do not know of Troop E.

George

 

[Art112]

I Dont think that the switch over to total digital transmissions is around the corner. Their still Ironing out bugs with the analog system. There might be some control points that are transmitting in digital but it will be a while before all troops are on digital. Most of the troopers I talk to complain about the system and it's coverage.

Art

 

[RocketNJ]

Have you talked to them about the Rt78 coverage since the cutover and new site addition? They just realigned the system Thanksgiving week.

I've heard the coverage along the 78 corridor is MUCH better now. Also the audio in overlap areas has improved dramatically since they went to a digital microwave backbone. It allows for much more accurate phasing of the simulcast signal.

The subscribers probably will not do a mass exodus to digital operation right away but the test talkgroups I heard using digital during the cutover sounded excellent compared to analog.

George

 

[cassidy1190]

I just got a pro-2052 so I could here NJSP trunked comms, and now there switching to digital. GREAT TIMING GUYS!!! :lol:

 

[RocketNJ]

As I stated before, there is no intention for the normal communications to go digital right away (2 Comm, 3 Comm, 4 Comm, etc)

 

[BFIFM790]

Did they add any new frequencies to accomidate the new trunked comms in the trunked system?

 

[NESN]

A new class of about 90 Troopers graduated yesterday in Asbury Park. When the Superintendant was interviewed on News 12 NJ and he said that there not enough money to hold this class, so this class was paid for the NJ Turnpike Authority. He also stated that even with another class scheduled for April 2005, they will still be looking for 70-110 more Troopers to compensate for retirements, injury leaves, etc. As always lack of money for all of this was a subject. Replacing vehicles has also been a major topic in the last year. A statement was made in last years budget hearings about the need to "upgrade an outdated and insufficent radio system". I know alot of this the normal posturing between politics, budgets and rank and file, but the point is: with New Jersey in it's current budget situation, major overhauls or wholesale upgrades of the radio system will fall behind manpower and vehicles at budget time. So, I agree that most of the system will not upgrade to digital anytime soon.

 

[RocketNJ]

The old Troop B system only had channels 11 and 12 at certain sites to provide extra capacity for the Parkway and Turnpike units. Now chan 11 & 12 are at all Troop B sites.

The system statewide IS upgrading to a mixed mode system. Troop B is already completed. The customer already has some XTS5000 portables which are already digital capable. They also have MT2000 portables and Spectra mobiles which are not digital capable. So don't expect to see the normal communications going digital anytime soon.

If/when the Nextel rebanding occurs they will have to upgrade the older mobiles and portables. The new units will be digital capable so who knows? Maybe they might switch then?

 

[DJ88]

I have a few questions regarding this switchover to a new system. Is it going to be a Motorola Type 2 system ? Will they use the same frequencies ? And will the talk groups remain the same ? Thanks in advance for your input.

 

[RocketNJ]

It is still type 2 and talkgroups will not be changing (that would require a LOT of subscriber reprogramming.

I heard Troops A & C will also be 12 channels. Will need to use trunker to monitor the frequencies or check the FCC site for licenses.

 

[Pyro658]

What do you mean by the will be 12 freqs for A and C? They are gonna go conventional? That is what you make it sound like.
Dave

 

[RocketNJ]

Not sure how many frequencies there are now in the troops A &C systems. I know the Troop B system had 10 channels at all sites and channels 11 & 12 at only select sites before the upgrade. Now after the upgrade they all 12 channels at all of the simulcast sites.

So, if Troops A & C do not have all 12 channels at all sites they will after the upgrade.

And to answer your question, no, they will NOT be going conventional but to a 12 channel type 2 mixed mode simulcast trunked system. Say that 10 times fast

 

[carbineone]

And the big question is if they will use encryption. If so we are s.o.l.

 

[BUFSTR]

NJSP DIGITAL SWITCHOVER

Don't expect the NJSP switchover to a Motorola Digital system anytime soon. With the expected budget shortfall in 2005, the lack of money in grants from the Federal Gov't in Homeland Security, the digital system will be phased on over the next few years. Regular comm's (Patrol) will be digital, encryption will be on the Specialized units (TEAMS, BOMB etc) , Homeland Security, Detectives and the Protection detail. Right now their is not enough $$$ to finish the purhcase of mobiles and portables for the entire NJSP. Plus the Turnpike and Parkway NJSP equipment is paid for by the Highway Authority and their has been no budget allotment for the 2005 fiscal year for digital radios. The highway authority just paid for the last Troop recruit class of 100 new troopers that graduated 2 weeks ago because the state had no money to finish the class!

 

[carbineone]

That's exactly what stinks the good talkgroups are going to be encrypted.

 

[RocketNJ]

Re: NJSP DIGITAL SWITCHOVER

Don't expect the NJSP switchover to a Motorola Digital system anytime soon. With the expected budget shortfall in 2005, the lack of money in grants from the Federal Gov't in Homeland Security, the digital system will be phased on over the next few years.

Actually Troob B is already installed, Troops A & C will be operational by the end of 2005 (system already purchased). The switchover day-to-day digital operations will not happen for a long time. You are correct that they need to upgrade a lot of subscriber units.

 

[SCPD]

NJSP going digital

Read today in the news, that Senator Codey alloted extra money to
the NJSP for personnel and to update the radio system.

 

[SCPD]

Will Troop Comms be digital or the whole system?


Thanks,

K2NNJ

 

[RocketNJ]

It's up to the state as to which talkgroups (if any) will be digital. With around 10,000 radios on the system it would be a huge reprogramming project.

I'd guess some of the covert talkgroups may go digital sooner but normal traffic talkgroups like 2 Comm, 3 Comm, etc will probably stay analog for quite some time.

Again it is only a guess. Only the state knows how they want to use the new system.

The Troop B system sounds a lot better now.
George