Nothing to listen to anymore?

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People always say there isn't anything good to listen to anymore. I disagree.

While your (and my own) local LE/Fire/EMS comms may no longer be monitorable, there are still many things to listen to.

Aviation monitoring is what drew me into the hobby in the late 1980s, primarily military - but commercial as well. You can apply this same type of monitoring to railroads, businesses, etc.


Here is just a snippet of random stuff going on today in Florida.

ADSB snapshot... lots of aircraft... commercial and private. another sunny day for flying!

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Although mostly mundane, nearly every airport has a staffed Fixed Base Operator (FBO). 99% of these have a frequency assigned for coordination of inbound aircraft. Typically the FBOs service private aviation aircraft up to and including large private jet aircraft - which Florida certainly has plenty of. Nearly all of these FBOs operate in the 129-132 MHz portion of the VHF aviation band, which they sort-of-kind-of share with the large commercial (Part 121) passenger aircraft who also operate around this portion of the aviation band - for Part 121 operators (passenger carriers) these are commonly called 'company frequencies' and are used for gate arrival type communications between the airline and their inbound aircraft. wheelchairs? discussed here. EMS/police needed? discussed here. bad passenger? discussed here. (get the idea?!)

The RR dB is fairly well populated with both the FBO and Part 121 company aircraft frequencies for Florida airports - but as you probably know, you can hear aircraft for HUNDREDS of miles from your QTH. One of the best resources for FBO frequencies is www.airnav.com Here is a screen shot of "Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport" (KFXE) that shows the FBOs and their frequency assignments - but note --- the above referenced 'company' frequencies are NOT published for the public - they are not available online unless you have a subscription and/or are employed by the carriers:

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For monitoring these FBO and company frequencies, I use SDR#, an Airspy, and the 'fast scanner' plugin, which scans all the available frequencies between 129-132 MHz in less than a second, stopping only for valid traffic. I suppose I could just scan the known frequencies, but these assignments have a habit of changing often, so I find it easier just to scan the entire range of frequencies

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Note the frequency that the radio is stopped on above - "GULFNET" 130.700

this VHF and HF system is all publicly disclosed at Atlantic HF Assignments and is used to link pilots to medical and/or corporate offices. Just this morning - Today, there have been three aircraft with medical 'issues' chatting on 130.700 (!)

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For example, today, I had FlexJet 595, coming out of the Caribbean, who came up on 130.700 and requested an HF signal check, so he was directed to 13.348U - where he successfully tested his HF radio with New York Radio (note the "N" and "S" on the frequencies above - New York Radio and San Francisco Radio are common callsigns.

Finally, in the case of MCO (Orlando International) - this airport is managed by GOAA, the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority. As everyone (likely) knows, the LE comms in Orange County are all encrypted, including the Orlando Police Department who (currently) patrols the airport.

However, the fire/ems side of the Orange County system only sees partial encryption. GOAA FIRE ops, at least that I have seen recently, are NOT encrypted.

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The details for this system can be found here: Orange County Government Trunking System, Orlando, Florida


So yeah - Florida is rapidly becoming 100% encrypted for LE comms. But yes, there is still plenty of stuff to listen to.

Happy New Year!
 

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I scan all the time in Tampa bay, there's still plenty of stuff to listen to if someone isn't against activity that is other than PD/FD
 

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I shut down all the local PD & FD in Lee County and opened all national frequencies not a real lot of traffic. Still searching for something to justify any upgrade to my equipment.
 

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For monitoring these FBO and company frequencies, I use SDR#, an Airspy, and the 'fast scanner' plugin, which scans all the available frequencies between 129-132 MHz in less than a second, stopping only for valid traffic.
What kind of antenna do you have set up to capture this type of traffic, just curious?
 

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Great info. However I live 7 miles from RSW and the aircraft on n SDS100 is about as useless and you know what on a cow as the old saying goes. lol
Which is why I have a BCD325P2 and BCD996P2. Both are excellent for civilian and MilAir comms. I opted not to get a BC125AT as it does not cover 380-400 Mhz where there is still AM mode aircraft comms. Both scanners are excellent for anything other than LSM, and do fairly well with it most of the time where I am located.
 

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I've used so many antennas thru the years, I can't name the BEST. Currently have an OmniX in the attic under a metal roof and am impressed how well my ancient BCD996P2s are hearing.
 

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I shut down all the local PD & FD in Lee County and opened all national frequencies not a real lot of traffic. Still searching for something to justify any upgrade to my equipment.
Newbie to the hobby, but I'm also in Lee County (SW Cape) and was hoping to see others in Lee County on here. I work off Alico and 75 and I set up my TD-H3+ on the AM airband and it's been pretty active all day. I'm about 1.5 miles from the airport and I'm on the 2nd floor of my building.
 

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Good, informative article. Aircraft monitoring is what drew me into the world of scanning, although SWL was my first toe in the radio world waters.

I would also mention that 122.95, which used to be the primary FBO frequency, is still very active for many FBO's.

Listening to ATC during storms is also interesting, as pilots request deviations from their flight plans to go around a storm build-up in their path.

Most commercial a/c use the ARInc (now Collins) freqs for medical situations. They still notify their gate dispatch of the emergency upon arrival, but use Collins to get EMS treatment while still enroute.

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People always say there isn't anything good to listen to anymore. I disagree.

While your (and my own) local LE/Fire/EMS comms may no longer be monitorable, there are still many things to listen to.

Aviation monitoring is what drew me into the hobby in the late 1980s, primarily military - but commercial as well. You can apply this same type of monitoring to railroads, businesses, etc.

So yeah - Florida is rapidly becoming 100% encrypted for LE comms. But yes, there is still plenty of stuff to listen to.

Happy New Year!
Excellent write up and Happy New Year to you!
 

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Great post @batdude. My experience is similar, and my takeaway is that you never know if you're going to enjoy listening to the other services until you check it out.

Yeah, it's frustrating as all git-out when agencies encrypt, but what are our choices? Get rid of the radio or see what else it can find. Some of it is useful at various times, some interesting, and some entertaining.

Way back when Harris County Texas went P25, I couldn't afford to upgrade to a digital scanner so I had to focus on different things. Improving reception on rural VHF systems was early on the list. This led to a great interest in VHF DXing and propagation. Add in rail and air channels to the new antennas, and all of a sudden there was a ton of activity almost 24/7, and plenty of spectrum to search.

Today, my SDS200 sits on my county's simulcast system 24/7, but it's mostly in the background. Most of my receiving capacity goes to aeronautical monitoring from HF to UHF, with railroad and regional VHF after that. I have no interest in ever getting on an airplane myself, but I like their radio traffic, and wouldn't mind parking near a big airport to hear the tower and ground and other appurtenances. I would have never known how much I enjoy airband listening if I hadn't just tried to hear whatever I could.

If you're in/near a good-sized metro area, Helo A/A or your local helo control can have some interesting conversations at night. Railroads and buses have the some of the most up-to-date info after storms, as well as some businesses. And then there's the entertaining. You just never know what you'll hear on some of these licensed and unlicensed frequencies.


I get as much enjoyment out of my radios as I want to. Sure, some of it has absolutely no use or relevance to my life, but neither does >99.9999% of PS stuff. The whole point for us hobbyists is just to have fun.
 

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I used to keep the fire dispatch on. Sometimes I will listen to police but if I'm not focused and doing something else it really is annoying. With the advent of statewide systems and talkgroups I like to put on a single oddball thing like the hospital security, a towing company, the local college, army artillery range, the prison, DNR, hospital,etc.
One time on AIRINC 129.4 I heard a jet out of Toronto turn around because they miscalculated fuel. Another time one of the displays went blank and the pilot was talking to support.
 

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I have an entire codeplug on my Apx 8000 almost all 50 zones are filled with Ham Radio, Florida forest service, medevac, railroad and pretty much everything that’s conventional and I still have quite a bit to listen to. That’s not in the public safety side, especially since I’m a ham.
 

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Well all my Lee County Florida listeners the final switch over to total encryption has happened. Lots of new TG ID’s all dead and nothing to hear except ENCRY. So glad I didn’t go for the SDS 150. Guess I now have a nice paperweight for my desk with the SDS 100. 😢
 

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I already can see the bevard county fl system you can’t listen to because it’s encrypted and already know I I can get them listen to port carnval system, but no more Brevard County that I can’t listen to right now
 

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Well all my Lee County Florida listeners the final switch over to total encryption has happened. Lots of new TG ID’s all dead and nothing to hear except ENCRY. So glad I didn’t go for the SDS 150. Guess I now have a nice paperweight for my desk with the SDS 100. 😢
You might want to submit that info to the DB to save some poor sucker in Lee County from wasting money on a new scanner.
 

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You might want to submit that info to the DB to save some poor sucker in Lee County from wasting money on a new scanner.
Lee County already shows a considerable amount of encryption that should tell anyone not to depend on monitoring most of Lee County. I never bother to even program Lee County when I am there. Apparently it went full on.
 

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@batdude thanks for this post! I have been listening to aviation for a few years now as I am wedged between PMP and FXE. I did not know about the GULFNET frequency so I will add that.

Also it has been enjoyable to listen to student pilots being yelled at by the tower frequencies for going the wrong way or messing up with the spacing between aircraft landing especially a Cessna 172 going barely 100 kts and a LearJet blasting away on final.

The military UHF frequencies have been especially enjoyable when POTUS is in town with a TFR. As well as the fighter calls on 121.5 when a aircraft enters the TFR prior to intercept.
 

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Still plenty to listen to out there. It just takes a bit more effort now compared to years ago.
 
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