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And some of the base antenna set ups are very directional for coverage just along trackage, while others are omni and have great big circles of coverage.

Most roads are using Sinclair SD212-SF2P2SNM 1/2 wave dipole antennas for their lineside base installs now for the directional nature. Basically identical to the Sinclair 220MHz PTC dipoles. NS is still big, appropriately so, on their old school monster 20ft tall Commander Stationmaster antennas in Pennsylvania and West Virginia for their wide-area mountaintop bases. Downside is lightning loves them. We were sitting 50 yards away in the truck when the one on Tunnelhill in Gallitzin, PA got hit in the storms Wednesday.
 
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While technically an omni, those Stationmaster antennas had the radiation pattern more like an infinity sign or a sideways eight -- perfect for a railroad base station. I know that antenna you're talking about on Tunnelhill. At its high elevation, I can only wonder what it receives during summertime DX!
 

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While technically an omni, those Stationmaster antennas had the radiation pattern more like an infinity sign or a sideways eight -- perfect for a railroad base station. I know that antenna you're talking about on Tunnelhill. At its high elevation, I can only wonder what it receives during summertime DX!

I know them well. Worked on enough of them. As for elevation at Tunnelhill, the top of the antenna sits at 2360ft ASL. In the summer it routinely has a receive range of 100mi, and up to 225mi when there's really good trop. Which is why in the summer Pittsburgh East usually doesn't keep Tunnelhill base selected and only selects it when someone tones up.
 

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Most roads are using Sinclair SD212-SF2P2SNM 1/2 wave dipole antennas for their lineside base installs now for the directional nature. Basically identical to the Sinclair 220MHz PTC dipoles. NS is still big, appropriately so, on their old school monster 20ft tall Commander Stationmaster antennas in Pennsylvania and West Virginia for their wide-area mountaintop bases. Downside is lightning loves them. We were sitting 50 yards away in the truck when the one on Tunnelhill in Gallitzin, PA got hit in the storms Wednesday.

It would be fantastic to be able to set up a StationMaster for rail monitoring lol, but youd have to have amazing grounding for the lightning they attract if you used it for scanners. If you ever get a great camera with some good timed exposures of what it does when lightning hits one... It will make you wonder how any antenna stays not fried half the time.
 

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It would be fantastic to be able to set up a StationMaster for rail monitoring lol, but youd have to have amazing grounding for the lightning they attract if you used it for scanners. If you ever get a great camera with some good timed exposures of what it does when lightning hits one... It will make you wonder how any antenna stays not fried half the time.

Actually way ahead of you. I have a full-size Stationmaster on a reclaimed 40ft telephone pole at our place in West Virginia. It's grounded to a 20ft copper ground rod with solid core 10AWG wire and protected with a PolyPhaser arrestor before the radio. Then just cause it's me the setup has a PolyPhaser RRF160 band pass filter and a rehabbed preamp. It's all tied together into a Motorola XTL5000.

Overkill? A little. But hey, if it's worth doing it's worth overdoing.
 

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Along the ns mainlines in indiana, they have selectable transmitter sites every so many miles and at major interchanges / interlockings. That way they can utilize the same frequency for many miles. And so they can receive and record lower powered radios such as handhelds in the field.
In heavy traffic areas (such as chicago metro area), they use a different a frequency or aar channel to alleviate radio congestion on the mainline frequency.
 

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And dates have been put into play...

1. Seems kind of stupid to move some dispatchers to a temporary facility then move them to Peachtree. Why not leave them where they are, then move them when Peachtree is ready?

2. When do the poor saps in the temporary facility get moved to Peachtree?
 

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1. Seems kind of stupid to move some dispatchers to a temporary facility then move them to Peachtree. Why not leave them where they are, then move them when Peachtree is ready?

2. When do the poor saps in the temporary facility get moved to Peachtree?

I can assure you all the dispatchers are wondering the same. Basically this is a rush job. It was only conceived really last summer.
 

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This past week Roanoke dispatchers' office officially closed shop. All Roanoke desks are now operating out of Atlanta. Dearborn goes next. Then Pittsburgh and Harrisburg. Additionally NS has imposed limitations on dispatchers in Atlanta about the permissible number of bases to be monitored at one time.
 

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Centralization is nothing new in the RR industry - except that CSX and NS are late to the party and haven't figured out the logistics very well.

NS is doing it in stages due to the requirements of NYD, Section 4 and intra-carrier agreements, as well as some of the backend work that needs to be done, but as most is now IP based with CAD, CTC modernizations and other IP connected infrastructure, its really not a big deal.

"Route familiarization" is just a holdover from days past, and really isn't worth much these days. Districts are bigger, trains have changed. Two days is not enough time to see and know any route - nor ride trains that would make much of a difference in actually running them. The T-Plan is what dictates this.

Dispatchers electing to go to Atlanta will be consolated into one master roster.

If dispatchers came from other crafts, they retain or do not retain their seniority rights depending on where they hired out of. If they don't want to go, they can pick up right where they left off in the former craft - their seniority keeps going up while they were away.

The TCU/ADTA agreement allows temporary moves to other dispatching centers prior to the move to Atlanta. This again was to allow time for gradual intergration.

The agreement calls for Birmingham, Chicago, Illinois, Greenville and Roanoke to be abolished after the standard 30 day notice.

June was when they could abolish and move the KN jobs to Illinois then to Atlanta

September with a 45 day notice they can start the move from Dearborn, Decatur, Fort Wayne, Pittsburgh, and Harrisburg to Atlanta.

Senoriry will be allowed by date or hire and if a conflict, the lower employee number will govern.

They are paying upto $30,000 in relocation expenses, and the interim dispatchers in between officers are being offered reimbursement for living/rental/mortage expenses until moved to Atlanta, two weeks paid for moving, and a few other incentives.

At last count, Atlanta was short 75 dispatchers with current GAD dispatchers working two desks (give or take) on average. When the complete move is finished, there may be a surplus of dispatchers with consolidated desks, but still yet to be determined when all the moves are finished. There are also some junior new hires holding regular assignments as they were hired directly in Atlanta, but when the final consolidated roster is finished, they may be out on the street.

As such, some of the new (to be hired) have been placed on hold while others are still hired in the current offices to backfill the shortages at the regionals.

UP and BNSF did it a bit better, and they only maintain a couple of regional offices due to specific operations that both are heavily involved in (Texas, California) but everything else is in Omaha and Fort Worth.

I've been in both UP's and BNSF's office, and they run pretty slick.
 

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Harrisburg Dispatchers received a memo on Friday with a new required notice. Official closure date for Harrisburg is pushed back and set now for November 8th. Greentree (Pittsburgh) is waiting on a new date. Reportedly there are issues with meeting set-up deadlines down in Atlanta that were originally agreed to in the May 21st Implementation Agreement.
 

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Dispatchers are not the only ones being moved to Atlanta, this is just a first step, NS is planning to move virtually all upper management in entirety from Virginia to Georgia within the next few years. Training center is already in Georgia, Dispatchers will be in Georgia, next comes the rest...

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/norfolk-southern-relocate-atlanta

I saw that earlier this week. Seems to be the trend again, everybody under one roof.
 

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The dispatchers in Dearborn have been given 45 days notice of the move. Less than half of the dispatchers are supposed to move, and that's not because of the consolidation of desks (which is also supposed to happen). They simply aren't going. Either just quitting or if they can going back to a craft.
 

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The dispatchers in Dearborn have been given 45 days notice of the move. Less than half of the dispatchers are supposed to move, and that's not because of the consolidation of desks (which is also supposed to happen). They simply aren't going. Either just quitting or if they can going back to a craft.

That's an issue they've been seeing systemwide. They shoved something like 40 new dispatcher trainees through Choo-Choo-U in McDonough in the last 6-9mo knowing that was gonna be a problem. I know a couple in Harrisburg who are going back in the cab, and two who are going back to the military.
 
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