NXDN Audio Setting

[VASCAR2]

On my BCD325P2 the local PD just added P25 and still use analog occasionally. I leave the audio setting for all as I rarely need the coded squelch for analog or the NAC for P25. I just upgraded my BCD325P with NXDN. Am I correct in thinking if I leave the audio set to ALL my scanner will receive analog, P25 and NXDN?

I could program the NXDN frequency as a NXDN only but I don’t know the Area or RAN for this Frequency/Agency. I looked in the database and couldn’t see the RAN listed for this Frequency/PD. This Frequency is used by a local PD as a NXDN conventional repeater but still use analog for communicating with agency that don’t have NXDN capable radios.

I searched the forum but couldn't find a specific answer to this question. When programming NXDN as conventional is it required to enter a AREA/RAN to receive NXDN radio traffic?

 

[dave3825]

If its just one conventional freq, I do not believe you need the RAN unless another user is on the same freq within the range your scanner receives. I have a few nxdn conventional freqs in my 436 with ran set to search.

 

[VASCAR2]

I didn’t see where I could set for search on NXDN audio on my BCD325P2. I really didn’t know f the Area number or RAN functioned in a similar manner as DCS/NAC conventional but for NXDN. I live far enough from this NXDN repeater I might not be able to consistently receive it. It might be a while before I drive closer but really would be hard to tell if I have the frequency programmed correctly. I have n other radio capable of receiving NXDN.

There were rumors this NXDN frequency was encrypted but it is not listed as encrypted in the RR data base.

 

[TNDispatcher]

the 325 does not have RAN search sadly. You best bet is to go close to the site and turn on close call and find out that way. That should give u the info u need.

 

[VASCAR2]

I didn’t think about using close call. I programmed a five site NXDN trunked system and it is working. There isn’t a lot of radio traffic on this NXDN conventional frequency.

 

[jeff]

The 325P2 does have RAN search capability. Go to Srch/CloCall Opt, then Tone/Code Search, then NAC/CC/RAN/Area.

 

[VASCAR2]

Thanks for the info. Do you know if I leave the frequency left to All in audio setting it will receive any analog, P25 and also NXDN? I know on All I receive analog and P25, just not sure on NXDN.

 

[hiegtx]

The 325P2 does have RAN search capability. Go to Srch/CloCall Opt, then Tone/Code Search, then NAC/CC/RAN/Area.

As noted, the 325P2 can search for the RAN.

What it cannot do is search for the LCN. The LCN Finder option is not available on the 325P2 nor the 996P2.

 

[RoninJoliet]

When you PGRM the NXDN frequency hold on it , set it to digital, then there are three modes that provide that info by pressing F+ 6 , mode two shows color code for DMR and RAN for NXDN .....

 

[VASCAR2]

Thanks Ron I didn’t know that. Does the F-6 work on conventional as well as trunked Frequencies programmed as NXDN.

 

[RoninJoliet]

Yup, mode1 shows you NXDN DMR , mode2 shows CC RAN and mode3 Slot or UID when you program a frequency and set it to digital

 

[VASCAR2]

Thanks Ron!

 

[ka3jjz]

Some great stuff here for the wiki....Mike

 

[buddrousa]

Just one side note IF SET TO ALL the 325p2 and 996p2 WILL NOT SEARCH for TONES RAN CC or NAC.
If set to DIGITAL only it will display codes.
If set to ANALG only it will display tones.

 

[VASCAR2]

I was trying to receive a digital signal yesterday with my BCD325P2. The FCC list the license with emission designators for narrow band FM analog and NXDN ( 4K00F1E NEXEDGE, IDAS). I had the audio type set to All Analog and digital. All I received was un-decoded digital noise. I changed the setting to digital NXDN, search for RAN. Unfortunately I didn’t hear any additional traffic before I left the area.

I saw one employee with a hand held radio and it appeared to be a VHF High Band Kenwood which is what this system is licensed. I think this particular model Kenwood radio can be programmed for P25, NXDN, DMR or Hytera.
The frequency is 153.5750 Repeater with input transmit 159.7200. The un-decoded digital transmissions I received were short in duration which might have contributed to not being decoded.

The FCC license has a designator for 4K00F1D 6.25 KHz data (IDAS, NEXEDGE). The transmission was to long for use like a status button, like back in service. This frequency is used by private security for a university. I would’ve thought if the transmission was data NXDN on the BCD325P2 with NXDN upgrade their wouldn’t be any audio digital noise. I’m curious if anyone can confirm if NXDN data audio noise would be blocked if there was no RAN programmed. Security does not have a mobile data computer in their vehicle.

 

[buddrousa]

Do you have the DMR license for your 325p2 Kenwood NX5000 are nice they do P25 NXDN or DMR.

 

[VASCAR2]

I don’t have the DMR upgrade for my BCD325P2. I live in a rural area and there isn’t any DMR close to where I live.

 

[buddrousa]

If the scanner has NXDN and P25 it will decode either AS LONG AS THE TRAFFIC IS NOT ENCRYPTED.

 

[VASCAR2]

Thanks for the info.