NYS Thruway P25 Phase 2 Trunking System

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Partly funded by tolls. There's no way we aren't paying for it. Those tolls would be much higher if we weren't.
 

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Wrong. The Thruway system is funded exclusively by tolls. Not one cent of tax dollars goes towards the system.
 

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I suspect that they finally want to get Troop T's comms separated from all the maintenance and tow truck crap, and a TDMA system is one way to accomplish that.

There's some elegant simplicity in how this works today. Having everyone on the same channel can be frustrating - but if you think about it - everyone's on the same page. They know what's closed, what's open, where there are problems, etc. They can communicate key pieces of information quickly, efficiently, and without the game of telephone. You split that up operationally then some of the pure simplicity is lost. It's now incumbent on dispatch to relay - correctly - and timely. Everyone knows that almost depends on the specific dispatcher in the chair - some good and some have challenges........ There is always the opposite way - split it all up - but for anyone who has listened for years can appreciate how seemingly well the whole thing operates to an outsider today. Hope it stays that way.
 

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It might say that on paper but our taxes go into the NYSP/NYSDOT budget. We all know how the government operates when it comes to shuffling tax money around.
I would surmise a lot of semantics are in play here.
 

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It might say that on paper but our taxes go into the NYSP/NYSDOT budget. We all know how the government operates when it comes to shuffling tax money around.
I would surmise a lot of semantics are in play here.
Reaffirming a false claim doesn't make it true.
  • The NYSTA maintains its own roadways, not NYSDOT
  • The NYSTA pays the state for NYSP Troop T coverage
NYSTA financial documentation, including the 2022 budget, can be found in seconds doing a Google search. No tax dollars are being spent, plain and simple.

Now how about we get back on topic discussing the proposed radio system itself? :rolleyes:
 

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Reaffirming a false claim doesn't make it true.
  • The NYSTA maintains its own roadways, not NYSDOT
  • The NYSTA pays the state for NYSP Troop T coverage
NYSTA financial documentation, including the 2022 budget, can be found in seconds doing a Google search. No tax dollars are being spent, plain and simple.

Now how about we get back on topic discussing the proposed radio system itself? :rolleyes:
Sometimes when there’s a serious incident you’ll hear headquarters… are they NYSP headquarters or NYSTA operations supervision?
 

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Daym this thread has gone off the rails...

Is there a lot of radio traffic for the thruway? My tax money is being spent on a 500 mile 2 lane road system that will see how much utilization? NYS made a big deal of cellular along major highways, how about a nice APX Next? I know it sounds grumpy

Have you ever driven the thruway? No one is paying their "Tax money" towards the thruway
There is a ton of radio traffic for the thruway Esp down here in Zone 1 (which is more than just the mainline Thruway)

Partly funded by tolls. There's no way we aren't paying for it. Those tolls would be much higher if we weren't.
It might say that on paper but our taxes go into the NYSP/NYSDOT budget. We all know how the government operates when it comes to shuffling tax money around.
Like I said, semantics...

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.....

NYS DOT Doesn't maintain the thruway, NYSTA (New York State Thruway Authority) Does... 2. Separate. agencies...
 

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Sometimes when there’s a serious incident you’ll hear headquarters… are they NYSP headquarters or NYSTA operations supervision?

From what I heard over the years my understanding is all the dispatchers sit in the same room in the same building for all zones. HQ is basically the supervisor over all the zones. Usually you hear them handing off interzone items etc. I think they interact with all units - but maybe they only really do so with the troopers. It's been a while and I haven't paid that close attention.
 

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Daym this thread has gone off the rails...



Have you ever driven the thruway? No one is paying their "Tax money" towards the thruway
There is a ton of radio traffic for the thruway Esp down here in Zone 1 (which is more than just the mainline Thruway)





Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.....

NYS DOT Doesn't maintain the thruway, NYSTA (New York State Thruway Authority) Does... 2. Separate. agencies...
I see you're doing your best to keep it off...
Same agency, different name. That's like saying DEC are not state police.
 

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Same agency, different name. That's like saying DEC are not state police.
Hang on, are you actually trying to make the claim that New York State Department of Transportation and the New York State Thruway Authority are the same agency? Now you're just trolling. That or you are being incredibly obtuse.

Please, do 5 minutes worth of research before making such ridiculous claims. You're dead wrong with everything you've posted in this thread, end of story.

 

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I see you're doing your best to keep it off...
Same agency, different name. That's like saying DEC are not state police.

I love how you think your right, when multiple people including me have proved you wrong...

educate yourself instead of trying to argue with everyone that says you are wrong.
 

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The only fact here is that neither one of us can definitively prove our opinion.
You happen to believe that not one penny of any of our taxes goes toward anything thruway related and I do not.

Now, what was the original topic you wanted to get back to..?
 

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The only fact here is that neither one of us can definitively prove our opinion.
You happen to believe that not one penny of any of our taxes goes toward anything thruway related and I do not.

Now, what was the original topic you wanted to get back to..?
Ah okay, so you don't actually believe in facts, only what you believe to be true, i.e. your own opinion. I guess that's par for the course these days...facts no longer matter.

My ignore list just grew by one.
 

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I love how you think your right, when multiple people including me have proved you wrong...

educate yourself instead of trying to argue with everyone that says you are wrong.

Speaking of trolling...

You decided to keep it going for no reason. You haven't proven anything.
 

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Ah okay, so you don't actually believe in facts, only what you believe to be true, i.e. your own opinion. I guess that's par for the course these days...facts no longer matter.

My ignore list just grew by one.

Well thank God for that.
 

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The only fact here is that neither one of us can definitively prove our opinion.
You happen to believe that not one penny of any of our taxes goes toward anything thruway related and I do not.

Now, what was the original topic you wanted to get back to..?

Ok, I don't know what your problem is, but you clearly insist on starting an argument. Learn the difference between facts and opinions. Your opinion is that 1, our taxes go into the NYSTA budget. The fact is that that is not true, Just like it says in the Wikipedia article above, further proving my and everyone else's point. and 2, that the NYSTA and NYSDOT are the same agency. The fact is they are not. We have said this more than 3 times, and you still don't understand.

Believe what you believe but the facts still remain. My 86 list just grew too, goodbye.
 
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