Ohio MARCS Cuyahoga

[Jphila20]

Ohio MARCS Cuyahoga Post 18 and others will be busy tomorrow (9/22) afternoon. If you can pick them up - enjoy.

 

[WX4JCW]

whos coming

 

[Cobra_Commander]

Whos on their way?

 

[rcid1971]

Problem with these OSHP CLE enforcement blitzes is that by the time it's wrapped up, most of their perps are back out on the streets, due to lax prosecution and inability to build appropriately sized jails, tents or barracks.

So now it's a perpetual blitz, until Cleveland PD gets real with enforcement, changes their goofball pursuit policy and elects real prosecutors.

 

[W8KIC]

Whos on their way?

The no pursuit policy is one that originated out of city hall. The previous mayor, Frank Jackson, who was a total loser, implemented it as a means of cutting down on civil suit payouts. The criminal element know full well that this misguided policy hands them a gift on a silver platter. It also gives them free rein to taunt CPD officers as they drive past them because they know full well that city hall has tied the hands of the rank and file officers from engaging in legitimate pursuits. That's not to say that every pursuit is something they should engage in but a sizable number of them would be considered plain as day legit in the real world and if I were a member of CPD, knowing full well that I'm straightjacketed right out of the gate from performing the duties that I swore to uphold, I'd be totally demoralized! Regrettably, Jackson's successor, Justin Bibb, continues on with the same lame policy and it sends the worst possible message, not only to the citizens of Cleveland, but with the public at large.

 

[rcid1971]

The no pursuit policy is one that originated out of city hall. The previous mayor, Frank Jackson, who was a total loser, implemented it as a means of cutting down on civil suit payouts. The criminal element know full well that this misguided policy hands them a gift on a silver platter. It also gives them free rein to taunt CPD officers as they drive past them because they know full well that city hall has tied the hands of the rank and file officers from engaging in legitimate pursuits. That's not to say that every pursuit is something they should engage in but a sizable number of them would be considered plain as day legit in the real world and if I were a member of CPD, knowing full well that I'm straightjacketed right out of the gate from performing the duties that I swore to uphold, I'd be totally demoralized! Regrettably, Jackson's successor, Justin Bibb, continues on with the same lame policy and it sends the worst possible message, not only to the citizens of Cleveland, but with the public at large.

Decades of loose oversight and poor training led to foolish pursuits (police academies even used the 1993 "Get on It Mel" episode of COPS to use as an example of what not to do).

Or pursuits that ended in making Swiss cheese of the violator's car, or innocent passengers. One went so far as to have the "officer" defy training and take a poor position standing on a hood of a violator car pouring magazines of rounds into the front seat.

So there's both sides.

 

[W8KIC]

Decades of loose oversight and poor training led to foolish pursuits (police academies even used the 1993 "Get on It Mel" episode of COPS to use as an example of what not to do).

Or pursuits that ended in making Swiss cheese of the violator's car, or innocent passengers. One went so far as to have the "officer" defy training and take a poor position standing on a hood of a violator car pouring magazines of rounds into the front seat.

So there's both sides.

Im not denying they've had their share of screw ups along the way and that the event you're referring to was beyond reprehensible. But instead of the feds marching into town with their ridiculous consent decree, along with a so called "Community Police Commission" who's supposed job is to second guess what takes place out on the streets, why not allow CPD to do what they obviously do in the vast majority of situations they encounter which is to do the very best job that they can, with consideration to the insanity they have to deal with, day in and day out without assuming that the events you referred to above are the norm?

 

[rcid1971]

Im not denying they've had their share of screw ups along the way and that the event you're referring to was beyond reprehensible. But instead of the feds marching into town with their ridiculous consent decree, along with a so called "Community Police Commission" who's supposed job is to second guess what takes place out on the streets, why not allow CPD to do what they obviously do in the vast majority of situations they encounter which is to do the very best job that they can, with consideration to the insanity they have to deal with, day in and day out without assuming that the events you referred to above are the norm?

Agreed. Giving criminals the rule of the roost has been a complete and total disaster. It's criminal anarchy.

The people I know at CPD are good people. You hear it on the radio all the time.

Did you see the story of the "Community Police Commission" member that showed up to a CPD scene, video recorded events, and berated them about their techniques with a subject. Reprehensible.

Elections have consequences and Cleveland deserves what it gets. It just sucks for anyone working there, and I suspect that's why recruitment is near impossible.

 

[Jphila20]

Agreed. Giving criminals the rule of the roost has been a complete and total disaster. It's criminal anarchy.

The people I know at CPD are good people. You hear it on the radio all the time.

Did you see the story of the "Community Police Commission" member that showed up to a CPD scene, video recorded events, and berated them about their techniques with a subject. Reprehensible.

Elections have consequences and Cleveland deserves what it gets. It just sucks for anyone working there, and I suspect that's why recruitment is near impossible.

All department across the country are having issues filling the slots. People who go into law enforcement don't do it to get rich. They do it because they cared about the average person becomes a victim. In the past there were people in law enforcement who shouldn't have been in law enforcement. That's what created some of the problems. Today, no matter what, being a cop you are guilty until proven innocent. Career criminals are back on the street before the report is file. The system works toward plea agreements and not punishment. Cleveland has a lot of good, no great dedicated Officers that are stuck working forced overtime and a commission looking to find something to prove a point. When was the last time you saw a Cop and and said "Thank You.

 

[rcid1971]

All department across the country are having issues filling the slots. People who go into law enforcement don't do it to get rich. They do it because they cared about the average person becomes a victim. In the past there were people in law enforcement who shouldn't have been in law enforcement. That's what created some of the problems. Today, no matter what, being a cop you are guilty until proven innocent. Career criminals are back on the street before the report is file. The system works toward plea agreements and not punishment. Cleveland has a lot of good, no great dedicated Officers that are stuck working forced overtime and a commission looking to find something to prove a point. When was the last time you saw a Cop and and said "Thank You.

At Hopkins today, but KL looked bothered.

 

[Jphila20]

At Hopkins today, but KL looked bothered.

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