Organ Pipe National Monument

[clareconley]

I would imagine then, that includes more than the Sabino Canyon area. It would likely include the entire forest. USFS law enforcement officers are called just that and not rangers. The term "ranger" in the USFS only includes District Rangers, of which there are only 2-6 on each national forest. District Rangers are line authority positions that supervise a ranger district, a geographical portion of a national forest.

That could be, but I don't know. I do know the Pima County Sheriff's office deals with all kinds of incidents there. I got the word ranger from the side of their vehicles. Which states "Park Ranger".

 

[es93546]

That could be, but I don't know. I do know the Pima County Sheriff's office deals with all kinds of incidents there. I got the word ranger from the side of their vehicles. Which states "Park Ranger".

I'm curious as to what agency this is in Sabino Canyon. If you see other markings on the vehicle, logos in particular and even license plate types. Federal license plates can start with an "A" for the Dept. of Agriculture, which would be the U.S. Forest Service, "I" for Dept. of Interior, which would be the National Park Service or an Arizona state license plate. I'm wondering if the U.S. Forest Service has turned some field functions over to a concessionaire and they are labeling their vehicles with "Park Ranger." In that case there would be private vehicle plates on the vehicle.

 

[es93546]

That could be, but I don't know. I do know the Pima County Sheriff's office deals with all kinds of incidents there. I got the word ranger from the side of their vehicles. Which states "Park Ranger".

You are speaking about the National Forest portion of Sabino Canyon, which is closed to private vehicles with a shuttle bus available during the day (8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.)? The shuttle starts at the Coronado National Forest, Santa Catalina Ranger District ranger station right at the National Forest boundary. I'm wondering if there is a county park along Sabino Creek downstream of the Forest boundary. That may be where you see vehicles with "Park Ranger" on the side. I've been there once about 30 years ago, so I don't know the area very well. I can't imagine why an area closed to vehicles would garner so many law enforcement incidents. There is no overnight use allowed on the National Forest portion of the creek.

 

[clareconley]

You are speaking about the National Forest portion of Sabino Canyon, which is closed to private vehicles with a shuttle bus available during the day (8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.)? The shuttle starts at the Coronado National Forest, Santa Catalina Ranger District ranger station right at the National Forest boundary. I'm wondering if there is a county park along Sabino Creek downstream of the Forest boundary. That may be where you see vehicles with "Park Ranger" on the side. I've been there once about 30 years ago, so I don't know the area very well. I can't imagine why an area closed to vehicles would garner so many law enforcement incidents. There is no overnight use allowed on the National Forest portion of the creek.

Sorry for not being clear. The comment concerning Pima County Sheriff's Office was meant for the Coronado National Forest. The problems at Sabino Canyon, I would guess would be some drug problems, parking, and human and wildlife interactions.