Philips RG6 Quad shield- anyone using this stuff?

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I noticed when I was at Wal-Mart that they carry RG6 quad shield, 50 feet for just under $20.. I know LMR-400 is the best stuff out there, but is this stuff decent to use to connect to an antenna, maybe for a shorter run of 25'? Anyone out there using it already? I just would like to avoid the hassle of buying online and having it shipped.Thanks for the reply in advance.
 

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I use it but to date, I've only used short runs. (6' and 12') I did pick up a 50' run last weekend. Haven't used it as you can see. No idea how it rates or compares to other RG6 cable but it looks to be of high quality. Connectors are purdy too! :p

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Nice! I was thinking of getting the 25 foot length myself, let me know how that 50 footer works out for you :)
 

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I've had a lot of good luck so far with RG6 quad--in my own case, using Commscope RG-6 quad and compression F and BNC connections, but *very* good performance (and even good performance with just F connectors and F-female-to-BNC-male adaptors).
 

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Right now I am using the same type of Coax from Radio Shack. 50' of it. It is very good Coax I have to say. Getting a very strong Signal from my Antenna to the Scanner. Later.
 

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windigofer said:
I've had a lot of good luck so far with RG6 quad--in my own case, using Commscope RG-6 quad and compression F and BNC connections, but *very* good performance (and even good performance with just F connectors and F-female-to-BNC-male adaptors).

The snap-n-seal waterproof conectors are very important if the cable doesn't already come with connectors attached.

I've also had good luck with quad shield.
 

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Thank you

I just got the same 50 foot length that NoRide has. Haven't hook it up or anything, don't have the right connectors yet. This combined with my RS 20-176 antenna should help me get some considerable range over the stock antenna on my PRO-433.

Thanks again guys.
 
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I like that Wal Mart cable so much I bought a 500' spool and wired up all the televisions, antennas and my pet hamster. He bit me so I gave him to my cat.
 

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Of course, now it's time for the million dollar question- what adapters do I need to connect this cable from a PRO-433 to an RS 20-176 antenna? It looks like I need to connect the female BNC on the back of the PRO-433 to the male coax and the other end of the male coax to the antenna, which has some type of connection that I don't recognize. It's female side to one of those "big" coax connections I think. I hate connectors!

I think this is the one I need to connect the cable to the antenna?

http://www.radioshack.com/product/i...&sr=1&origkw=SO239&kw=so239&parentPage=search

Doh! I already have the BNC to coax connector and didn't even know it. Just found one in my stash. Looks like I solved my own problem :D
 
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StoliRaz said:
Of course, now it's time for the million dollar question- what adapters do I need to connect this cable from a PRO-433 to an RS 20-176 antenna? It looks like I need to connect the female BNC on the back of the PRO-433 to the male coax and the other end of the male coax to the antenna, which has some type of connection that I don't recognize. It's female side to one of those "big" coax connections I think. I hate connectors!

I think this is the one I need to connect the cable to the antenna?

http://www.radioshack.com/product/i...&sr=1&origkw=SO239&kw=so239&parentPage=search

Doh! I already have the BNC to coax connector and didn't even know it. Just found one in my stash. Looks like I solved my own problem :D

OK, here are the connectors you'll need:

a) For radio end: F female to BNC male, readily available at Radio Shack and other places
b) For antenna end: F female to UHF male--this is the adapter you posted a link to.

There is some loss with the two adaptors, but unless you have crimp tools/compression tools/etc. to attach a BNC connector to the coax directly, I wouldn't sweat it. (The largest loss would be from the UHF connector above 400-500MHz or so; there's not much to be done for that, unfortunately. One possible fix I'm investigating the ease of doing is converting that to an N connector end--as it turns out, the end holding the UHF pin on the 20-176 screws in and out and is based on an 8-32 screw :3)
 

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I've been using 75ft of that wire from my Grove scanner Beam a BC895XLT since November. I upgraded from regular RG6 to the tripple shielded Philips stuff when i built my new antenna structure. I noticed an increase in signal on some frequencies that i had difficulty receiving before. Most of which were in the 453 MHz band and some low band stuff as well.Also it seemed to eliminate some static noise i was receiving with the old stuff. I think it is well worth the money.
 

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What about transmitting?

I would use it mostly for scanning and rx'ing only, but what is the max power this stuff will handle for tx'ing?

Thanks!
 

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The extra shielding does not reduce loss. It will reduce cross talk between cables when bundled together and will also reduce interference ingress to a closed system like cable TV. Look up the specs for a given mfr and their quad shield loss will be identical to the single shield version of the same type cable.
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CHAWMAN24 said:
I've been using 75ft of that wire from my Grove scanner Beam a BC895XLT since November. I upgraded from regular RG6 to the tripple shielded Philips stuff when i built my new antenna structure. I noticed an increase in signal on some frequencies that i had difficulty receiving before. Most of which were in the 453 MHz band and some low band stuff as well.Also it seemed to eliminate some static noise i was receiving with the old stuff. I think it is well worth the money.
 

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prcguy said:
The extra shielding does not reduce loss. It will reduce cross talk between cables when bundled together and will also reduce interference ingress to a closed system like cable TV. Look up the specs for a given mfr and their quad shield loss will be identical to the single shield version of the same type cable.
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Correct--one thing quad-shield *is* good for, however, is in noisier environments RF-wise (as you noted, the extra shield reduces crosstalk; it also provides some better insulation against RF leaking into the system).

At least based on my purely unscientific experiementation, RG-6 of any stripe will perform much better than RG-8x (or even RG-8), especially at 800MHz, and the quad-shield tends to perform better than standard dual-shield RG-6 in areas where RF interference might be an issue (I live in a suburban environment that is mildly RF-noisy, and RG-6 quad sounds *at least to my ears* to be better behaved, in that there is not only good signal but reduced static).

I have not a signal tester to verify this scientifically, though.
 

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This is working out perfect then I guess, because my local police all operate around 460mhz, the subway around 470mhz and fire departments around 480 mhz. Not to mention the city services trunking on 800mhz. Looks promising.

BTW windigolfer, thanks for the confirmation. I got the correct connector at Radioshack last night, fits perfect.

Last question- when I'm ready to go outdoor with this thing, what is best to use to protect the connectors from moisture?

Awesome thread, thanks for the reponses!
 

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Coax seal.

StoliRaz said:
This is working out perfect then I guess, because my local police all operate around 460mhz, the subway around 470mhz and fire departments around 480 mhz. Not to mention the city services trunking on 800mhz. Looks promising.

BTW windigolfer, thanks for the confirmation. I got the correct connector at Radioshack last night, fits perfect.

Last question- when I'm ready to go outdoor with this thing, what is best to use to protect the connectors from moisture?

Awesome thread, thanks for the reponses!
I bought some of that Coax connector seal at Radio Shack. It is very good seal.
 

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Let's put it this way. The Coax is wounderfull. I just heard the IAIS Train Dispatcher talking to a IAIS Train way down in Council Bluffs all the way from my town here in Blair. I even heard the IAIS Train talking right back to the Dispatcher. And that is 30 Miles away. This Coax is AWESOME.
 
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