Priority Scanning Trunked System

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New SDS100 User. I am having trouble understanding if/how to set priority scanning for a P25 trunked system. I set priority on the channel (talkgroup) i want to prioritize and set "priority ID scan" for the system but I see no indication of priority (PRI) like I see with conventional priority (which works OK). I have studied the manuals but no help...Am i missing something? Thanks
 

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New SDS100 User. I am having trouble understanding if/how to set priority scanning for a P25 trunked system. I set priority on the channel (talkgroup) i want to prioritize and set "priority ID scan" for the system but I see no indication of priority (PRI) like I see with conventional priority (which works OK). I have studied the manuals but no help...Am i missing something? Thanks
Trunking priority does not enable the PRI tag in the display. You set a talkgroup in the system as Priority, and enable Priority Scan under that systems Options. It will only look for the TGID tagged as Priority when scanning that specific trunked system.

Turning the Conventional system Priority on or off does not affect trunked system priority. For trunked systems, you have to edit system options to turn the feature on or off.
 

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I am also having a problem with priority scan. I got it to stop on the channel and into the menu where you can set the priority on or off but I can't figure how I did it in the first place. I can stop on the channel but don't know how to get back to the setting for the frequency?
 

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I am also having a problem with priority scan. I got it to stop on the channel and into the menu where you can set the priority on or off but I can't figure how I did it in the first place. I can stop on the channel but don't know how to get back to the setting for the frequency?
Which scanner?

And, are you referring to Priority Scan on a conventional channel? Or trunked system priority.
 

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I have the Uniden SDS 100, on the city of Barrie police dept. I am just learning these new systems.
 

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I have the Uniden SDS 100, on the city of Barrie police dept. I am just learning these new systems.
Ate you trying to set a Priority on the conventional PD frequency, 142.065?
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You can only set Priority if the channel is in a Favorites list. Are you using a Favorites, or just the main database plus location?
 

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I have the channel in a favorites list but don't know how to get into the frequency setting with the att,pri, and other options to set it as a priority. When I get the channel on hold I can't figure how to go further.
 

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I have the channel in a favorites list but don't know how to get into the frequency setting with the att,pri, and other options to set it as a priority. When I get the channel on hold I can't figure how to go further.
If it's in a Favorites list, just use the Favorites editor to set whatever you want, priority, attenuation, alert led, alert tone, whatever.
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On the scanner itself:
Press Menu (the bottom key on the left side of the scanner)
Scroll down & select Manage Favorites
Next select the Favorites list that the Barrie PD is in
Then, after selecting the list, select the System where your channels are
Once you've selected the System, then the next step is to select the Department.
From the Department menu, select Edit Department
Select the department edit option, then select Edit Channel
Scroll to the channel you want to edit & select it by pressing the E/yes key.
That will get you to a screen where you can see the various items you can change.
Note that if you make any change on the scanner itself, either duplicate the change on your Favorites list in Sentionel, or "read" the scanner back into Sentinel, so that you'll have the same settings in Sentinel as well as on the scanner.
 

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Okay finally got it. I wasn't going far enough through the menu. Thank you very much it was getting frustrating.
 

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Maybe gilding the lily, but also be sure to turn on the Priority Scan Mode either to Priority or DND (experiment to see what you like). There are other Priority settings, but leave them at default for now.

These settings are in the Profile Editor under the Miscellaneous tab. On the scanner its Menu>Priority Scan.

As far as I can tell, you settled on this being a conventional frequency rather than part of a trunked system which you started off with. These scanners handle priority stuff different on conventional than trunked. Different settings, different places and different way of doing priority. Even us older users get confused on this occasionally.

Priority Scan Mode tells the scanner you want it to do Priority Scanning for a conventional system. Setting a channel(s) to P-Ch identifies which channels should be the priority. So it is kind of a two step process.

Not to confuse you more, but rather warn you of something, so that if you see it, you won't panic. From time to time you may see a message on your scanner to the effect of "No Priority Channel". It's an error message but the scanner still functions. This can happen if you turn on Priority Scanning, but the scanner cannot access a Priority Channel. This can happen if you Avoid a channel, department or system that has the priority channel. Other things such as turning off quick keys, location changes can also trigger the message.
 

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So priority scan is for conventional systems and shows "PRI" if active.
and priority ID scan is for trunking systems and doesnt show "PRI" if active.
and it only checks the priority channel (TG) when the trunked system with the priority channel is being scanned.
 

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So priority scan is for conventional systems and shows "PRI" if active. CORRECT
and priority ID scan is for trunking systems and doesnt show "PRI" if active. CORRECT
and it only checks the priority channel (TG) when the trunked system with the priority channel is being scanned. NOT correct

In Priority ID Scan, Priority is only applicable when the scanner is monitoring the Control Channel. If there is traffic on the system whether on a priority or non-priority talkgroup, the scanner does NOT check to see if there is activity on a higher priority talkgroup.

In truth, for trunked systems "Priority" is not what we are used to with conventional. In conventional, the scanner will jump to a priority frequency to see if it has activity, if so, it remains on that priority frequency. Since scanning trunked systems is done completely different (the scanner is monitoring the control channel for channel grants rather than "listening" to each talkgroup for activity), there is no frequency for the scanner to jump to.
 

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Okay Thank you everyone for the help. Being new to these new system,department,channel, trunk? Good thing the scanner knows what to do. Reading different forums here is helping alot with the learning process.Having fun with this unit.
 

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Best thing to do is experiment. You can't ruin a scanner with bad programming, just wipe it out and start again.

Things going wrong and having to fix them are good teaching things.
 
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