Pro-652 - Phase I and II mixed - solutions?

[Weatherman]

Just checking to see if anyone has undergone the same....

Pro-652 (P25 Phase I / FDMA only) - Yes. Am successfully able to monitor Phase I talkgroups on a single system with mixed FDMA(Phase I)/TDMA(Phase II) talkgroups - but only on a system in the 700 MHz band. I am trying to monitor another such mixed system, with frequencies in the 400 MHz band, but with with no luck.

Anyone have similar experiences with the Pro-652 or its Whistler equivalent? Special tweeking needed when programming?
(used Butel ARC 500 to program my unit).

 

[tvengr]

Create 2 separate trunked systems. If the 400 system is P25, use a System Type of P25 Auto for both. If the 400 is a Motorola Type 2 system, you have make the System Type Mot VHF/UHF and supply a trunking table. You then assign the 700 talkgroups to the 700 system and the 400 talkgroups to the 400 system. You can then assign scan lists to the 700 talkgroups, dividing the talkgroups into categories such as scan list 1 for PD, scan list 2 for fire, and scan list 3 for public works. Then you can do the same thing with the 400 talkgroups using other scan lists. What systems are you monitoring?

 

[Weatherman]

Thank you - going to break down into steps what you said and try an figure things out that way.

Systems monitored:

700 MHz --- York Region Trunking System, York, Ontario - Scanner Frequencies

400 MHz --- Metrolinx - GO Transit Trunking System, Golden Horseshoe Area, Ontario - Scanner Frequencies

 

[buddrousa]

The 652 is not a P25 Phase 2 scanner

 

[Weatherman]

Yes, not Phase 2, only Phase 1 - acknowledged that in my original message. The issue relates to being able to monitor Phase 1 TGs in a mixed Phase 1/Phase 2 system.

 

[buddrousa]

You will hear all phase 1 but no phase 2 traffic with a 652

 

[GTR8000]

You will hear all phase 1 but no phase 2 traffic with a 652

He already acknowledged that in his very first post...he knows it will only decode the FDMA traffic. His question is related to the UHF system, not TDMA talkgroups.

 

[Weatherman]

Create 2 separate trunked systems. If the 400 system is P25, use a System Type of P25 Auto for both. If the 400 is a Motorola Type 2 system, you have make the System Type Mot VHF/UHF and supply a trunking table. You then assign the 700 talkgroups to the 700 system and the 400 talkgroups to the 400 system. You can then assign scan lists to the 700 talkgroups, dividing the talkgroups into categories such as scan list 1 for PD, scan list 2 for fire, and scan list 3 for public works. Then you can do the same thing with the 400 talkgroups using other scan lists. What systems are you monitoring?

tvengr - went over your comment again, as I am now just getting time to re-program the pro-652 - all of these steps described have been done already, and checked... 2 separate systems, assigning TGs, scanlists, etc.

What I think the problem may be, as I have just discovered, is that, for the 400 MHz system, I entered duplicate control channel frequencies - downloaded from RR multiple sites and some of these sites share the same control channel frequencies. Reprogrammed and got 1 hit when monitoring, but nothing more, on what I think is a system with significant traffic.... So I am still testing.

Thanks, again.

 

[tvengr]

More than one control channel in a site = one confused scanner.

 

[Rcarde40]

Hey guys looks like some Ontario Canada chat going here so I’ll throw a question out
I have a pro652 and was wondering if I’ll be able to hear opp on it.. I used to have a 125xlt and it picked up some but really full of static and choppy
Hoping this will be a better option to hear it all for opp