Puxing PX-888

[mrthick]

Unclemeat, i didnt see your reply sorry.

FYI i returned the radios for the Motorola GP 338, although mine is somewhat smaller than the model on motorola's site i dont know why.

I need to know something for sure...and that is can i be tracked or my location pinpointed if im just listening on police or related organizations frequencies...not talking?

Would be great if a good manual or site which can help on this model is found.

 

[tekshogun]

I am no expert and pretty new to this, but I did do a bit of research and found that while what you say is true about building ham radios, the rules are different for radios such as these that transmit outside of the ham band. The same with mod'ed CB radios not being allowed to be used on 10m. I just want to encourage others to do their homework, especially if you plan on using these for ARES, RACES, etc.
I only get heated when discussing the really important stuff, you know, like horse races/politics. ; )

You can use and build radios that can operate "out of band" which is why ham radio operators need modified equipment or radios previously not intended for ham use only for MARS use. In the case of ARES, RACES, and any other emergency service, if it works and does not break the rules, use it, so make it Puxing, Motorola, Vertex, etc. They can all be modified legally.

 

[Uncle_Meat]

You can only be tracked by transmitting, not receiving. The internet and cell phones, you can DEFINITELY be tracked by those!

 

[CFDJustin]

I have one. It passed through customs ok. I have 1 question though. Does anyone know how to program the tones in the radio to make it alert using the computer software.

 

[DirtyLarry]

I am no expert and pretty new to this, but I did do a bit of research and found that while what you say is true about building ham radios, the rules are different for radios such as these that transmit outside of the ham band. The same with mod'ed CB radios not being allowed to be used on 10m. I just want to encourage others to do their homework, especially if you plan on using these for ARES, RACES, etc.
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Modded CBs have been used on 10 meters for years (like since the 60s). Lots of guys take some of the old nicer CB rigs and mod them for 10 meters. There is nothing illegal about it. Lots of the ham magazines used to have articles about modding them. All it has to do is have a clean signal. I'm an ARES member and we could care less what radio anyone uses. As long as the signal is clean you can use whatever you like.

Now for all the other stuff on here:

As far as the HTs from China or where ever they are perfectly legal as well as long as they have a clean signal. I wouldn't buy one because you can pay a few more dollars and get something with a warranty and a manual that is not in Chinese but if someone wants to use one, hey go for it.

As far as a repeater operator keeping someone off a repeater for using a certain radio. The FCC has consistently said that since the repeater is owned by the repeater operator that the Repeater Op can keep anyone off he wants for any reason and you have to comply. Some repeaters are closed and they only let their buddies use it. If they want to keep someone off for having a certain radio or for having an ugly wife thats their prerogative. It may be stupid but perfectly legal. Fortunately repeater ops around here only ban someone that has a foul mouth or is causing constant trouble and then usually after a warning or 2.

As far as transmitting out of band lots of the older military stuff would transmit out of band. It was and still is used on ham and is legal. You can have stuff that will transmit, just be darned sure where you are before you transmit and be sure you are in the ham bands. We should be doing that anyway instead of depending on a radio to do it for us. Lots of hams are modding radios to transmit out of band so they can use 60 meters. There are plenty of radios out there made before we were allowed on 60 meters. One of mine will transmit anywhere so that I can use 60 meters and thats all I use that radio for. The guys at the Kenwood factory told me how to mod it so I could use 60. Its perfectly legal and if your radio does not exceed the carrier bandwidth for 60 meters its perfectly legal.

OK I think I commented on everthing now.

Happy Field Day to all and to all a Good Night!!!

 

[tekshogun]

As far as a repeater operator keeping someone off a repeater for using a certain radio. The FCC has consistently said that since the repeater is owned by the repeater operator that the Repeater Op can keep anyone off he wants for any reason and you have to comply. Some repeaters are closed and they only let their buddies use it. If they want to keep someone off for having a certain radio or for having an ugly wife thats their prerogative. It may be stupid but perfectly legal. Fortunately repeater ops around here only ban someone that has a foul mouth or is causing constant trouble and then usually after a warning or 2.

Agreed on all your points and to add on to the one quoted above, just as long as the repeater operator are not banning people for stupid/ignorant reasons. Sure it is still there prerogative and there is no law against being obnoxiously stupid. If that is how they want to look fine, but they really should do research. As for all your other points on that matter, yeah, I agree there.

 

[Murstech]

Here is something of note:
Ham radio operators are the only people who can legally buy/sell or even own 23 channel CB radios!
Back when 40 channels came out the FCC decided that the old crystal type 23 channels were slowly drifting off frequency because of age. They also wanted to promote 40 channel use.
They passed a law making 23 channel radios totally illegal with the exception of Ham radio use.

 

[N1BHH]

Here is something of note:
Ham radio operators are the only people who can legally buy/sell or even own 23 channel CB radios!
Back when 40 channels came out the FCC decided that the old crystal type 23 channels were slowly drifting off frequency because of age. They also wanted to promote 40 channel use.
They passed a law making 23 channel radios totally illegal with the exception of Ham radio use.

What kind of banana are you smoking. Your statement is totally false. Amateur Radio falls under FCC Part 87 rules, CB under Part 95 rules.

 

[AK9R]

Amateur Radio falls under FCC Part 87 rules,

Title 47 of the Code of Federal Regulations Part 87 is Aviation Services. Amateur Radio is in Part 97.

FCC: Wireless Telecommunications Bureau: Rules and Regulations

 

[Murstech]

What kind of banana are you smoking. Your statement is totally false. Amateur Radio falls under FCC Part 87 rules, CB under Part 95 rules.

You dont understand.. Under the CB rules and regulations it is illegal for a citizen to own or trade a 23 channel radio. The only exception to this rule is ham operators who are planning to convert these radios for ham use. They or anyone else are not allowed to use them on the cb band.

I know this for a fact because I was there when the law went into effect. I also know because some years ago I was paid a visit. And the Official requested to see all my cb radios. He told me because I had a ham license I was allowed to own the 23 channel radios.

Sooo.. When you see a 23 channel cb radio for sale at a garage sale that is illegal unless its a ham selling to a ham. The FCC never wants to see those radios on the CB bands ever again.

 

[duchee]

I have one. It passed through customs ok. I have 1 question though. Does anyone know how to program the tones in the radio to make it alert using the computer software.

hey justin from youtube

 

[duchee]

shows how young im i didnt even know they made 23 channels lol