QPP Frequencies

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Hello/Bonjour!

I will be traveling through the province of Quebec at some point soon, and was wondering where to find the QPP freqs, or radio system information? I have looked through the available systems in the RR database, but dont see anything that sticks out...maybe someone local can help me out? Or at least point me in the right direction.

Thanks, Merci

 

[plaws]

Hello/Bonjour!

I will be traveling through the province of Quebec at some point soon, and was wondering where to find the QPP freqs, or radio system information? I have looked through the available systems in the RR database, but dont see anything that sticks out...maybe someone local can help me out? Or at least point me in the right direction.

Thanks, Merci

Look for Surete du Quebec.

Surete du Quebec (SQ) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

 

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Look for Surete du Quebec.

Surete du Quebec (SQ) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Oh, I actually saw that in the list when I was looking, but wasnt sure if it was police, or QPP, I was thinking a commercial system or something lol..thanks a bunch plaws!

 

[plaws]

Oh, I actually saw that in the list when I was looking, but wasnt sure if it was police, or QPP, I was thinking a commercial system or something lol..thanks a bunch plaws!

There is no "QPP"; there is the Surete du Quebec.

I don't know if there is an official English name, but it's usually translated as Quebec Police Force.

Trivia: The VHF channels for the SQ Montreal Metro were SPCUM (now SPVM) channels in the 1970s-80s.

 

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There is no "QPP"; there is the Surete du Quebec.

I don't know if there is an official English name, but it's usually translated as Quebec Police Force.

Hmm, I could swear I remember seeing QPP on the side of the highway cruisers in Quebec...but I havent been there in at least 5 years now, maybe even longer. Maybe it was always QPF, and just looked like QPP to me lol.

Trivia: The VHF channels for the SQ Montreal Metro were SPCUM (now SPVM) channels in the 1970s-80s.

Hmm, wonder why they changed that name lol..thanks for that one, needed a good laugh!

 

[mtlfirebuff]

There is no "QPP"; there is the Surete du Quebec.

I don't know if there is an official English name, but it's usually translated as Quebec Police Force.

Trivia: The VHF channels for the SQ Montreal Metro were SPCUM (now SPVM) channels in the 1970s-80s.

There is no official English name for anything in this province. English is considered a foreign language. The provinical police is the Surete du Quebec (SQ). If you are planning on listening I hope you understand French because English is forbidden. I remember when all of the suburban fire departments merged with the SIM some of the guys had trouble speaking in French on the airwaves and the dispatchers telling them to call in on a land line in order to speak to them in English.

 

[plaws]

Hmm, I could swear I remember seeing QPP on the side of the highway cruisers in Quebec...but I havent been there in at least 5 years now, maybe even longer. Maybe it was always QPF, and just looked like QPP to me lol.



Hmm, wonder why they changed that name lol..thanks for that one, needed a good laugh!

The Service de la Police de la Communauté Urbaine de Montréal ceased to exist when the on-island municipalities were merged into the City of Montreal in 2002, hence Service de police de la Ville de Montréal.

Those suburban municipalities had lost their independent police services when the Communauté Urbaine de Montréal was formed in 1971. It's been one PD since.

As for the SQ, if they were ever the "QPP" it would have been in the '50s or '60s.

 

[NE1C4NSC4N]

As for the SQ, if they were ever the "QPP" it would have been in the '50s or '60s.

Hmm, that's a little far back for me I guess I just assumed it was QPP, since Surette are the ones on the highways, like in Ontario, with the OPP. They are basically the same, minus the french part.

 

[EJB]

Hmm, I could swear I remember seeing QPP on the side of the highway cruisers in Quebec...but I havent been there in at least 5 years now, maybe even longer. Maybe it was always QPF, and just looked like QPP to me lol.



Hmm, wonder why they changed that name lol..thanks for that one, needed a good laugh!

Blokes like me and my family used to refer to them as the Quebec Provincial Police but I dont remember their cars showing that if they ever did. Maybe an old timer from la belle province can recall.
Most references to Quebec being a province have been edited out, its complicated, lol, Quebec refers to itself as a nation within Canada.
Maybe you were referring to the OPP, Ontario Provincial Police?

 

[EJB]

There is no official English name for anything in this province. English is considered a foreign language. The provinical police is the Surete du Quebec (SQ). If you are planning on listening I hope you understand French because English is forbidden. I remember when all of the suburban fire departments merged with the SIM some of the guys had trouble speaking in French on the airwaves and the dispatchers telling them to call in on a land line in order to speak to them in English.

The MtlFirebuff is correct, generally all comms are in french, there are a good deal of laws that say this is so but it has been a long time since I got by BA in Quebec studies, studying this wierd wonderful part of the workd but:


.In Canada, there are two official languages, French and English. Every area of the province has had or had a substancial english population.A good deal of the population of Montreal is English. English (or anglos in Quebec speak) like made up and still make up a large majority of the population, the flag of the city has a Shamrock on it, in honour of the cities one time majority English speaking population. Many of areas of the province speak English.

Plaws was brought up there(West Island, IIRC?) and so was I, in the bilingual suburb of Cote St Luc where the 2nd language was probably Yiddish.

If you go to Quebec you will find that most people in Montreal can speak English and if it isnt their first language they will go out of their way to speak english. A tip; if you try to speak French most Quebecers will be quite happy and switch to English.

If you get sick, there are hospitals were there are english services. You never need worry that lack of french knowledge is any impedment in anything.

I havent been back in years but I remember that the Mtl police force would call out the car numbers in both languages, especially in the western areas of the island and in rare occasions the police would speak in english.

Signs can also be in both languages (with some 'weird' lettering laws).

All in all you dont have to be worried about your English and enjoy yourself, it is a great part of Canada.

 

[mtlfirebuff]

Advertising signs can be in a language other than French as the French text is twice as large as the other language text. Signs cannot be unilingually a language other than French. If you contravene this you will be visited by the language police. (Really).

A corporation cannot communicate with the government in a language other than french. This includes filing its corporation income tax returns. They must be in french only. If you call the workers safety commission they are not allowed to speak to you in a language other than French.

There are many such rules but Montreal is still a great place to live. You learn to speak French and tolerate these situations.

 

[EJB]

Advertising signs can be in a language other than French as the French text is twice as large as the other language text. Signs cannot be unilingually a language other than French. If you contravene this you will be visited by the language police. (Really).

A corporation cannot communicate with the government in a language other than french. This includes filing its corporation income tax returns. They must be in french only. If you call the workers safety commission they are not allowed to speak to you in a language other than French.

There are many such rules but Montreal is still a great place to live. You learn to speak French and tolerate these situations.

Yes I know all about it. I grew up there and then when I saw that having an ethnic last name wasnt pure laine enough I got the hell out.

I also studied in Quebec under a later PQ MNA's and the guy who ran the Action Democratique, his name escapes me but he was a dick. It was always fun to argue politics with these people; the french in Quebec were an extremely insecure 'collective' albeit endangered by a sea of English around them. I cant see any law stopping people from speaking english now with the 'net.

I am very well aware of the language police, I threw rocks at one of them once when they came to my workplace, this was after the nonewithstanding clause and the wonderful 1/2 size english sign law blah blah.

I also spoke english and refused to speak french when I qualified for workers comp.

What can I tell you, it is a great place to live and a great place to be from but things certainly changed in 1976.

And I am sorry for taking this thread way off course.

 

[VE2ZPS]

A corporation cannot communicate with the government in a language other than french. This includes filing its corporation income tax returns. They must be in french only. If you call the workers safety commission they are not allowed to speak to you in a language other than French.

Hi Mtlfirebuff,

You might possibly remember me .... I did my training over 25 years ago in a CA firm which you are extremely familiar with (to say the least).
I must admit that I disagree with some of your comments. I must have prepared thousands of T2-C17 English packages over the years (and I am sure you have as well). In any cases, since this is not related to radio, maybe one day we'll have the opportunity to discuss this matter.

With all my respect dear Colleague

 

[EJB]

Hi Mtlfirebuff,

You might possibly remember me .... I did my training over 25 years ago in a CA firm which you are extremely familiar with (to say the least).
I must admit that I disagree with some of your comments. I must have prepared thousands of T2-C17 English packages over the years (and I am sure you have as well). In any cases, since this is not related to radio, maybe one day we'll have the opportunity to discuss this matter.

With all my respect dear Colleague

Yup, my father was a CA with a partnership in Mtl and he filed in English. I used to occasionally work the files for him and the paperwork was in both languages.

 

[mtlfirebuff]

Hi Mtlfirebuff,

You might possibly remember me .... I did my training over 25 years ago in a CA firm which you are extremely familiar with (to say the least).
I must admit that I disagree with some of your comments. I must have prepared thousands of T2-C17 English packages over the years (and I am sure you have as well). In any cases, since this is not related to radio, maybe one day we'll have the opportunity to discuss this matter.

With all my respect dear Colleague

I have also prepared thousands of them over the years. Up until a few years ago it was permitted to file C17s in English and we did. The law changed a few years ago. In fact the software will print disclaimers on the forms if you print them in English. Send me a private e-mail as I will probably remember you but can't place the handle.

 

[VE2ZPS]

Send me a private e-mail as I will probably remember you but can't place the handle.

No problem, I've sent you a private message that might clarify "where I'm coming from".
Sincerely,

 

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And I am sorry for taking this thread way off course.

I appreciate it EJB, and everyone who has added to this thread, its interesting to read all this stuff about Quebec, I've only visited a few times in the past, but really loved it every time, especially Montreal, that is a Great city! So different from every other city in Canada, its like being in Europe or something, plus beautiful Women, and an F1 track right in the middle of it all...it doesnt get any better in my books I just wish they would get the ALMS series to stop there..someday I hope.

I might just have to make a stop there this summer if I head in that direction!

Oh, and I forgot to add, I have 2 accountants in my family, so even more interesting, ill throw out some Quebec tax law questions next time they are talking shop at family dinner

 

[exkalibur]

I love the Province of Quebec, despite my not being able to speak French worth a darn.

Contrary to what a lot of anglophones say about Quebec, I've never had the fact that I don't speak French very well be an issue for me. In Montreal, at times you'd barely know you're not in an English speaking city. Police and Urgences Sante both speak English just as well (sometimes better) than French. The SQ at least in the Papineau and Outaouais districts speak English very well and are some of the most courteous Police I've ever spoken with. Be aware however that their non-emerg operators at *4141 do NOT speak English (at least, the times I've called they didn't). Call 911 and use them as a translator.

To bring this back on topic - what's with their radio system? That is, how are channels decided where they're used? Sounds like several towers are all patched together and what not.

 

[EJB]

I appreciate it EJB, and everyone who has added to this thread, its interesting to read all this stuff about Quebec, I've only visited a few times in the past, but really loved it every time, especially Montreal, that is a Great city! So different from every other city in Canada, its like being in Europe or something, plus beautiful Women, and an F1 track right in the middle of it all...it doesnt get any better in my books I just wish they would get the ALMS series to stop there..someday I hope.

I might just have to make a stop there this summer if I head in that direction!

Oh, and I forgot to add, I have 2 accountants in my family, so even more interesting, ill throw out some Quebec tax law questions next time they are talking shop at family dinner

Montreal was a great city to grow up in. Where I lived you would never know, like excalibur said, that you were in a french speaking city. We rarely ventured in the east end outside of baseball games and we never had any problems with anyone. We were (and they were, the french that is), in our known self contained ghettos.

Things started to change in the late 70's, there are many many ex Montrealers scattered in the TROC and in the States. Some had job opps, some did not want to deal with the language issues (politicians really love to muck things up) but we never faught with the french, it was a lot different for earlier generations, you did not cross certain streets or enter into certain ghettos.

I miss it occasionally but I am sorry, as for living there, been there done that, the winters are fierce, Toronto is mild compared!