Railroad question

[KB9NLL]

and...
"shurly you don't mean that?"
"I do mean that and don't call me shirly"
:lol:

 

[KB9NLL]

This would more than likely be allowed in a major emergency if the law enforcement personell need to communicate with ARES however it would be a good idea for someone to0 be licensed anyway. There are no "rules" regarding the use of 10-codes and other language such as "copy" as long as they are not codes designed to obscure meaning. 10-4 isn't considered appropriate because it makes you sound like a CB'er and outside of the "appropriate guidelines" for good ham conduct but you can't be punished or have your licensed taken away for saying it. That a big 10-4 there Rubber Duck? :wink:

Your'e supposed to use plain language as I remember from my study days. But yeah I know everything you said. It just was very out of place for that repeater group and this area I'm just thinking it was a newbie (we've had a lot of them here) or a sheriff deputy/non active ham who happened to be in the comm. center. It was just very out of place and odd, as every TX had a 10-4 and after every report he said 10-4. Then after a while it's like he noticed that no one else was doing it so he started to refrain from it, using copy then eventually moving on to ok at the end of TX. Oh well I don't consider that or not IDing to bad of a problem it was for a good cause (severe weather net) and theres a lot going on and pressure. I remember when I ran a weekly net for the first time.

 

[KB9NLL]

Only licensed amateurs can use amateur freqs.

Unless it's an emergency and only way to get help, third party traffic (with control operator) ie: jota, kids day, etc. but yeah I know what you're saying I kinda read up on it in my fcc rule book. I was originally under the impression that after a train derailed that would still be considered a emergency, so that they could coordinate with each other or whatever. But the rule is basically for getting help if no other means. Not for use during disasters.

 

[OpSec]

All of your examples still have a licensed ham within feet or inches of the non-licensed operators which is acceptable. However, in 2008 I think you'd be hard pressed to convince an FCC board of review or a court that you (a person) only had a ham radio to call for help on about a train wreck on a non-ham channel...especially if you weren't a licensed ham.

I think the scope of "life and death emergency" is a bit more focused than that.