Why do the majority (MTA PD district 8 being 1 exception) of Law Enforcement agencies in CT use “Roger” so much? Not trying to troll this forum in any way. But any idea how long CT LE agencies used this term since.
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doctordialtone
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Roger = Received Order Given, Expect Results and/or old phonetic alphabet for "R" or replacement of "Romeo" to distinguish from "received"
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WilCo = Will Comply
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Over = My Transmission is complete, standing by for your reply (unless see below)
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Out = Signing off the air, terminating all transmissions, no reply necessary
As with pretty much everything in communions, basis of it was from the military.
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WilCo = Will Comply
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Over = My Transmission is complete, standing by for your reply (unless see below)
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Out = Signing off the air, terminating all transmissions, no reply necessary
As with pretty much everything in communions, basis of it was from the military.
doctordialtone
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Two additional comments on this;
1) There is no radio code, like 10-4, in use by CSP. "Roger" is brief and to the point.
2) Back when CSP was on VHF and there was an audible squelch tail, 2 mike clicks were a form of acknowledgement used by troopers.
Now, there is no squelch tail.
1) There is no radio code, like 10-4, in use by CSP. "Roger" is brief and to the point.
2) Back when CSP was on VHF and there was an audible squelch tail, 2 mike clicks were a form of acknowledgement used by troopers.
Now, there is no squelch tail.
EasternMassScanFan
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Maybe because it is taught like that in the academy? I know Massachusetts is similar, many agencies say "received".
Well in the day when it was single frequency statewide, no matter what you did...spoken or mike click..there was a significant chance you would be overridden by the cacophony of coms from other troops, not to mention skip. Albeit it got a little better when multiple freqs were assigned to the various troops statewide. One summer evening I was at Troop I on business (arrestee pick up) OMG! the radio was chaos and "The Hawk" still managed to keep his wits about him.
A while back it was decided radio comms should be done in plain language. For me, that meant plain English. Some FD’s embraced this and others took the attitude “Old Habits Die Hard” and allowed continued use of codes and the such. (PD’s fought with the idea of dropping codes for the same reason encryption is used.) While using plain English is not written in stone, there seems to have been an acceptance of using one or the other or both “as long as both sides of any conversation understood what was being said… “Roger, Wilco, over and out” will be around for as long as verbal comms are.
Who remembers “21-50 to Headquarters”? 1 Adam 12? These were two police units on TV shows separated by about 30 years… on TV they needed to use plain English for the viewers, but even in the real world language was always plain and simple, no “secret” code words used with the intention to provide understanding to a select few. Because they knew it didn’t take long to understand what was being said. PD’s today will encrypt before they try to teach their entire dept an new list of codes because every time they try it the personnel resort to their old codes when things get tense.
Who remembers “21-50 to Headquarters”? 1 Adam 12? These were two police units on TV shows separated by about 30 years… on TV they needed to use plain English for the viewers, but even in the real world language was always plain and simple, no “secret” code words used with the intention to provide understanding to a select few. Because they knew it didn’t take long to understand what was being said. PD’s today will encrypt before they try to teach their entire dept an new list of codes because every time they try it the personnel resort to their old codes when things get tense.
Adam 12 and highway patrol I love those two TV shows back in the days
sefrischling
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Come on out to Southeast Connecticut and you'll hear cops in Montville who have just shortened this down to "Gerrrr" rather than roger. Roger is just the common plain English phrase in use throughout much of Connecticut. You'll also hear "Recieve" or "Received" in use in some jurisdictions.
Not to mention “Gotcha”, “OK”, “go ahead it’s your nickle”… etc
If you heard a high or low pitched "whistle" it was followed by 4 to 6 clicks and a sigh of relief!
doctordialtone
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I'm looking for a list of graduates from today's graduation, if anyone has one or sees one.
If not, I'll be contacting the PIO.
Thanks! >Click Click<
If not, I'll be contacting the PIO.
Thanks! >Click Click<
There were some hilarious nonsensical shenanigans back in the day when there were no ID tags associated with transmissions, and I’m sure there’s a lot of reminiscing among the older over a cold one but the times they do change. Not much goes on these days… can’t get away with anything with all the recording and ID tagging going on. Monitoring may not be as entertaining as it once was. Wondering if it’s all by design… if it isn’t as interesting we won’t gripe as loud when encryption kicks in! LoL!
sefrischling
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Well there may have been a couple of "Roger Roger, what's you vector Victor?" on Ch-22 on the old system from time to time
